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Re: So why all the whining about the color changes?
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Fri, 19 Mar 2004 20:19:05 GMT
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In lugnet.general, Ley Ward wrote:
   In lugnet.general, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:
   I started a poll with the basic question:

“How long before the Lego company beats a shame-faced strategic retreat and returns the old grays and browns permanently to production?”

http://members.lugnet.com/polls/ballots/?n=173

So far, over half have answered “Never”.

If you believe that (and I’m not saying that you guys are wrong) then why all the whining? I’m not going to call it “voicing your opinion” or “expressing your concern”, it’s whining. If you don’t believe Lego will act on the complaints at any time, then there isn’t a lot of point in voicing complaint. It would seem to me to be best to either shup up and move on, or continue to express your displeasure in the belief that at some point Lego will get a clue.


Hi Bruce,

I’m not sure if the data you’ve collected can be easily interpreted in that way without knowing which people have complained. It’s possible that those who answered ‘never’ are the ones who are happy (or have settled for) the change. It’s also possible that those who answered ‘never’ have complained but have since given up hope based on the response they have received. I didn’t answer ‘never’ because I still have some hope that this will be turned around. But, I don’t think any of us are in possession of enough facts to answer the question with any authority, so it tends to look like wishful thinking on the one hand and acquiescence or despair on the other.

More than the loss of colours, I’m saddened by the effect all this has had on our community. I wish that we could all get back to building in the colours of our choice.

Peace and possibility,

Professor Whateverly

I answered never because I beleive that’s the most probable outcome (you could have constructed a poll (somewhere) that let me assign probabilities, but you didn’t).

That doesn’t mean that I wouldn’t like them to take this decision back, or that I think it’s a certainty that they won’t.

Further, I think there is merit in people calmly stating their opinions and offering input, and we’ve had some good input, even when this topic comes up again... as it has repeatedly. So I support discussion, even on the repetition of a topic, as long as in doing so those participating are not just beating dead horses or just whining or ignoring economic reality “because I want it to work that way”.

We have had some good input in this most recent outbreak of discussion, but in my view we may be reaching the point of diminishing returns, absent new events that require new commentary. And the discussion is in and of itself somewhat divisive which isn’t necessarily how I want to spend great buckets of time ...

(I’d rather build... I was at GMLTC last nite helping build the mountain, I wish those guys all the best at LaCrosse this weekend... or teach... I have prepwork to finish for our building clinic we’re giving at CKM tomorrow ... or even chew the fat over in .debate)

And I agree with those that this set of threads is certainly helping me firm up my opinion of certain people. (both good and bad!) I’d go so far as to say that it’s helping me glean names for my BL stoplist, but that would be incorrect because most of those that I would characterise as highest in heat:light ratio are already on it for various reasons. But I digress.

++Lar



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In lugnet.general, Larry Pieniazek wrote: <snip> (...) Lately I've just been puttering in the basement with my collection, seeing where the whimsy drives me--started a roundhouse project that looks promising (maybe pics to come!) When it comes down (...) (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.general)

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(...) Hi Bruce, I'm not sure if the data you've collected can be easily interpreted in that way without knowing which people have complained. It's possible that those who answered 'never' are the ones who are happy (or have settled for) the change. (...) (21 years ago, 19-Mar-04, to lugnet.general, FTX)

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