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(...) Ummmmm... It's gray. It's supposed to be dull. Trying to make gray "brighter and sharper" is like trying to make orange not quite as vivid--it defeats the purpose of the color itself. (...) I imagine that S@H bulk orders in regular shades of (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) Lame advice -- give up on the Lego hobby whenever you feel ready to do so, just as TLC has "given up" on the traditional colors that they have been producing for going on 20+ years! Yeah, yeah -- we're 5% of the market. Whatever. I have always (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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In lugnet.general, Jeff Szklennik wrote: SNIP oops sory about the bold-i tried to use parenthesis in brackets, but forgot to check that ftx was on. also sorry to post to self Jeff (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) Wow, I had heard a rumour about this last year, and was afraid that it was true... LEGO has been going crazy with bringing out new colors over the last few years. How many of us remember when there were only 10 or 12 colors produced? I sure (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) <SNIP> (...) ... and here is the Orlando LIC PaB selection, as of 17Nov2003 Brick 1 x 1 : TransBlue TransDarkPink Brick 1 x 2 : Black Lime Teal Brick 1 x 2 without Pillar : TransYellow Brick 1 x 3 : DarkPink Brick 1 x 4 : LightGrey MediumBlue (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.us.fl.orl, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) Dear Lego, I don't care why you changed the gray shades (color palette reasons, or because they are more "beautiful" or because you save 1 cent for every billion parts molded - I suspect this is the REAL reason -), but the result of it is that (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
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What about his first question? Are bulk packs going to be in normal gray or new gray? If LEGO is going to make bulk packs available in the new grays, then I think they should have new product numbers and be listed in the catalog and website as "new" (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
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In lugnet.lego, Jake McKee wrote: SNIP (...) Woo hoo! this made my day! Thank you Lego! Thank you Lego! Thank you Lego! Thank you Lego! Thank you Lego! Thank you Lego! Thank you Lego! Thank you Lego! Thank you Lego! Thank you Lego! but please don't (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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Jake, thanks for the info. It's a relief to know that the studs aren't going to change. Now, about those colors... (...) In (...) didn’t (...) Where do the "sand" colors fit in this new world of brightness and light? I would have called them far (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
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In lugnet.general, Amaury Jacquot wrote: [SNIP] (...) Guess, replying to myself is probably bad practise... I just happened on a picture representing the new brown, and am apalled. there is NO way this new dark pink is going to be appropriate to (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Jake, Thank you for the information. It shows a lot of respect to the LUGNET community for LEGO to be this forthcoming with the reasoning behind these changes. I feel compelled to publicly mourn the demise of my absolute favorite LEGO color, (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) I believe that most of us AFOL's will be able to adjust eventually. After all, if we all love the hobby, what choice do we really have. I for one will try not to complain to much(WAAAAAAAHHHH). But there is no way I am going to switch to MB or (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
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(...) The only place that "old" gray exists is sets that are a) already produced and b) not 2004 sets. From what I've been told "old" gray is no longer being used in production. Jake --- Jake McKee Community Liason LEGO Community Development (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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In lugnet.lego, Jake McKee wrote: <snip> (...) Yes, thanks for taking the time to fill us in and put many minds at ease. Well, admittedly I'm in the camp that doesn't like the idea of common colors becoming obsolete but it's nonetheless (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
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Thanks for the info, Jake. As for the rest, I'll just quote myself from Bricklink -- the de facto (last?) source for the grey bricks... Methinks my focus is shifting away from lego hobby-wise -- the price in time, the money, the lack of the needed (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) Jake, Thanks for the info, but this is simple BAD in so many ways for many AFOLs. more similar colors to sort and deal with to build something consistent will require a new large investment and time inability match old expensive parts will (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) :) Worth a try, anyway. For the record, "Brucey-Wan" is the other Bruce from the San Fernando Valley. Bruce (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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In lugnet.lego, Jake McKee wrote: [SNIP] (...) I have noted however some precision problems in the shape of the stud, it seems the logo-carrying part is separate from the vertical part, and they are not allways aligned properly See (URL) for details (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
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(...) Your Jedi mind tricks won't work on me Brucey-Wan. All I'll say about this is that textual lists of leaked set info often cause more confusion than anything else. Jake --- Jake McKee Community Liason LEGO Community Development (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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Hello Jake, Thanks for your detailed answer on this hot topic! (...) (great relief sigh!) - though I really doubted that LEGO could modify such a cornerstone of the building ;o) (...) It would be really great if the new colors came with some (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
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Jake, Thank you for the quick reply. I am glad to hear about the studs issue, not so glad to hear about the color changes, but I'm sure you've heard much on this issue. One question--are current bulk parts at S@H in the "old" grays or the "new" (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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(...) From what I understand, anything rolling off the line from now on (possible exceptions from previous post excluded) would be in the new colors. (...) Jake --- Jake McKee Community Liason LEGO Community Development (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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First off thanks for the info. (...) Good to know. (...) I personally find this odd. I would think that for everything except "metal" objects the old colors would be better. Especially for landscapes, castles, and buildings. Now I can see spaceships (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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<snip> (...) Thanks for the info, Jake. If all new sets are produced with new colors, does that mean that any future Legends sets will use the new colors? I'm assuming it does. For some reason, I can't really get excited about the fact that future (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
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In lugnet.lego, Jake McKee wrote: (snip) (...) (snip) Thanks, Jake, for the quick response to our hysteria;-) This is a great example of TLC's desire to be open to AFOL concerns and questions. I especially appreciate the willingness on TLC's part to (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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In lugnet.lego, Jake McKee wrote: <snip> (...) Thanks for checking into this, Jake, and thanks for the info! Take care, Dave K (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, FTX)
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Wow, it’s been a busy couple of days on LUGNET! My inbox, phone, and Instant Messenger have been going nuts with questions! There have been a great many posts, speculations, comments, and feedback about two different issues. We wanted to make sure (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.lego, lugnet.general, lugnet.lego.announce, FTX) !!
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(...) When Pick-A-Brick first premiered at LEGOLAND and people were estimating price per pieces, there was a link to a list of LEGO weights that Lutz Ulhmann had put together. We're going to DL next month and I wondered whether we should try and fit (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) While I agree with this, what keeps adults buying Lego instead of the cheaper clones which have appealing set designs than when we were kids? The answer is brand loyalty. The parents played with Lego when they were kids, not MegaBlocks. These (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
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(...) Now I haven't actually seen the new grey colors in person yet but based on the pictures it looks like LEGO is now matching their light and dark grey colors to the ones Mega Bloks uses. Now if the new colors are in addition to the existing (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego, FTX)
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I agree 100% with Mark. C'mon TLC, throw us a bone on this one. Give us back the greys and keep the basic colors alive! Replacing colors on us is a huge mistake. -- Hop-Frog (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.dear-lego, lugnet.general, FTX)
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(URL) 10 'hottest toys' for Christmas this year... LEGO came in 10th for sales for presents for boys. I'd buy LEGO sets as a present for my nephews over anything else on the list, but then again, I wasn't polled :) Dave K (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
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(...) I thought the holes in the minifig heads were for safety reasons, to prevent choking if a child were to attempt to swallow them. I think I saw that mentioned in a LEGO book somewhere... C (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
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(...) Not me! I'd go nutz counting that many plates(or blocks)! But as Chris suggested, the smaller the part the better deal the volume theory becomes. I have a cup full of 1x4 plates that is heavier than a cup of 2x4's. I also have cup almost full (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.market.shopping)
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I found this story on Yahoo. A new virus hase reared its ugly head. Read about it here. (URL) Weiser (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general)
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(...) After going though my buttloads of light grey I recognize my "very old" light grey (the "engine oil" shown) from my "current" ones bought in new condition (SAH, BL, sets) the last decade or so. That light grey plate ("new" version) looks much (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
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(...) Chris Yes it is, it works out to about $0.14 per 2x4, same as S@H. Weight does work better and better then S@H retail, the smaller the piece is. If someone can tell me how many 1x1 plates fit in the small and large cups, I would like to (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.market.shopping)
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(...) Day..." At least, that's from the '70's... If there was a slogan before that, I don't know it :) I seem to recall commercials, and there's a tune to it, but I don't remember the rest... Dave K (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
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(...) Not that kids can't put them together, but to make it easier--just like holes in the minifig heads made them easier to pull off and slots in the technic pins made them easier to pull out. Making a change to make something easier for the user (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
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(...) I am no expert on this aspect, but I don't think the logic is that sound here. I recall an article in a train magazine noting the 'graying' of the hobby. They worried that the average age of subscriber was like 56yrs old. I don't think (...) (22 years ago, 18-Nov-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
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