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    Re: ThrowBots elements are cool —Todd Lehman
    [followups set to lugnet.publish] (...) It's totally awesome (it almost doesn't let you take a bad picture!). I think most digital cameras today have this property because of the instantaneous feedback on the LCD screen which lets you get the (...) (26 years ago, 2-Feb-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.publish)
   
        The Mavica (was Re: ThrowBots elements are cool) —James Brown
     (...) Absolutely! We use ours for everything! My wife has a tendency to take 40 gazillion pics of things (slight exageration, but not much), and she uses the Mavica to take 4 or 5 quick shots, picking angle/lighting/etc before taking any shots with (...) (26 years ago, 2-Feb-99, to lugnet.publish)
    
         Re: The Mavica (was Re: ThrowBots elements are cool) —James Brown
      (...) uh, make that second one: (URL) grin> (26 years ago, 2-Feb-99, to lugnet.publish)
    
         Re: The Mavica (was Re: ThrowBots elements are cool) —Mike Faunce
      James Brown wrote in message ... (...) has a (...) though. (...) minute of (...) 1024x768 at 24 bits is over 2.3MB, so none will fit on a floppy. If they use 8 bits or 16 bits, you could fit either one or (you guessed it) none respectively. 800x600 (...) (26 years ago, 2-Feb-99, to lugnet.publish)
     
          Re: The Mavica (was Re: ThrowBots elements are cool) —James Brown
       (...) All the website says about it is: Bitmap (Non-Compressed) Mode: For the best images choose the non-compressed mode to display your images in a bitmap format (VGA only). I haven't had a chance to play with ours yet to see what the .bmp mode is. (...) (26 years ago, 2-Feb-99, to lugnet.publish)
      
           Re: The Mavica (was Re: ThrowBots elements are cool) —Mike Stanley
       (...) What that means is it can only store a 640x480 (VGA) image in bitmap format. So I guess it's 1024 in jpg or nothing. (26 years ago, 2-Feb-99, to lugnet.publish)
      
           Re: The Mavica (was Re: ThrowBots elements are cool) —Mike Faunce
       I don't know if this is common knowledge or not ... I know I found it the hard way: jpeg does not necessarily mean "lossy" compression. You can (with a conversion program, I use Firehand Ember), convert from .xxx to .jpg without loosing information. (...) (26 years ago, 2-Feb-99, to lugnet.publish)
      
           Re: The Mavica (was Re: ThrowBots elements are cool) —Mike Stanley
        (...) jpg is fine if you're satisfied with the image. But if you plan on editing the image you'll need to remember that if you keep saving it at 95% then it is shoved through that lossy process every single time. (26 years ago, 3-Feb-99, to lugnet.publish)
       
            Re: The Mavica (was Re: ThrowBots elements are cool) —Todd Lehman
        (...) It depends on the imaging application and how much of the image you tweak. For example, if you go in and remove a spot with Adobe Photoshop, it's smart enough only to alter that part of the image. (So I've heard.) --Todd (26 years ago, 3-Feb-99, to lugnet.publish)
       
            Re: The Mavica (was Re: ThrowBots elements are cool) —James Brown
         (...) amount (...) Yup. It also has a good range of filters to improve an image. Of course, Photoshop, like most applications has to be set to always save at 100% to avoid image degradation in a jpg. Photoshop does a pretty good job of compensating (...) (26 years ago, 3-Feb-99, to lugnet.publish)
       
            Re: The Mavica (was Re: ThrowBots elements are cool) —Mike Faunce
        Todd Lehman wrote in message ... (...) the (...) amount (...) advantage (...) smart (...) That's been my experience, I've not noticed any "increasing" degradation after editing a picture several times. ----- Mike Faunce - mfaunce@earthlink.net (26 years ago, 3-Feb-99, to lugnet.publish)
      
           Re: The Mavica (was Re: ThrowBots elements are cool) —Steve Bliss
       (...) Starting with a 256-color image probably won't give you the best comparision. If you've got a 24-bit image 'lying around', try your tests on that one. There's also a variation of JPEG, called (in Paint Shop Pro) "progressive encoding". Does (...) (26 years ago, 3-Feb-99, to lugnet.publish)
      
           Re: The Mavica (was Re: ThrowBots elements are cool) —Mike Stanley
        (...) Isn't that the kind of JPG that you can put on the web and have it load a bit at a time (bad description) ? (26 years ago, 3-Feb-99, to lugnet.publish)
      
           Re: The Mavica (was Re: ThrowBots elements are cool) —Selçuk Göre
       (...) I've been facing some jpgs throughout the web which like the old "interlaced" gifs, (showing up on the page as a whole but very coarse image at the time of opening the page, and improves itself as d/l continue). I've also heard or read (...) (26 years ago, 4-Feb-99, to lugnet.publish)
     
          Re: The Mavica (was Re: ThrowBots elements are cool) —Mike Stanley
      (...) Aside from the pain of scanning each one individually, how is the speed on each scan? I would hope this would be a SCSI device, but something tells me with the trend towards parallel stuff it might not be. I have an HP Photosmart scanner for (...) (26 years ago, 2-Feb-99, to lugnet.publish)
    
         Re: The Mavica (was Re: ThrowBots elements are cool) —Mike Stanley
     (...) I'd be interested in hearing more about the FD-81 and your opinion of it. I've never quite liked the Mavicas, mainly because they've pretty much always been a year or so behind the curve in resolution, although the convenience of the floppy (...) (26 years ago, 2-Feb-99, to lugnet.publish)
   
        Re: ThrowBots elements are cool —Joshua Delahunty
   (...) Wow! The mailbox and door are anacronistic, but I could otherwise be convinced that this baby is the long-lost 914 Shuttle. I like it! -- joshua (26 years ago, 15-Feb-99, to lugnet.publish)
 

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