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| | | (...) That point has not been lost on me. Doesn't make it right though. Will Lego Beach Department of Emergency Services www.crosswinds.net/~hokie (24 years ago, 19-Jun-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.build.minifigs)
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| | | | | Re: legos biggest mistake is... —Tom Stangl
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| | | | (...) It says more about the US attitude than the European - Americans are a bunch of squeamish prudes in general. Why is YOUR attitude "right" and the European attitude "wrong"? And if you think kids WON'T see cleavage in the real world, from a (...) (24 years ago, 20-Jun-00, to lugnet.general, lugnet.build.minifigs)
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| | | | | | Re: legos biggest mistake is... —Will Hess
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| | | | | (...) they (...) bunch of (...) European (...) FWIW My attitude is "right" for me and my family. I WISH it was "right" for the rest of the world ('twould make my job as a parent MUCH easier :-) but that's not gonna happen. I'd also like to know what (...) (24 years ago, 20-Jun-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: legos biggest mistake is... —Jeff Johnston
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| | | | | | (...) Hmmm...how young are kids that play with Barbies again? (...) Nice job turning the question around, but I don't think that's the right way to ask it. After all, what *is* appropriate about putting a baby doll that wets itself into the hands of (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jun-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: legos biggest mistake is... —Gary Istok
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| | | | | (...) I agree completely. When I was 15 I was visiting Europe with my mother and sister. We were at my uncles house, and they had on TV a show called "Paris in Review" that showed some floorshows (like in Las Vegas) with all the showgirls topless. (...) (24 years ago, 20-Jun-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: legos biggest mistake is... —Markus Wolf
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| | | | | | | (...) they (...) bunch of (...) early (...) turn (...) wouldn't (...) the (...) in (...) shelter (...) would be (...) River (...) nudists and (...) are (...) want (...) prudishness (...) crimes. (...) I'd love to see where you got the sex crime (...) (24 years ago, 20-Jun-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: legos biggest mistake is... —Jeff Stembel
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| | | | | | | (...) I agree completely, Gary, and was just thinking this the other day! I've never understood what is "wrong" with normal instances of nudity, such as bathing and dressing. We here in America are behind the times, as most media I've seen out of (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jun-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: legos biggest mistake is... —Adam Hoekwater
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| | | | | | (...) Gary, I think it's because America is a cesspool of social degeneration. Doesn't Japan hold the same prudishness? Are they number two in sex crimes? -Adam (24 years ago, 21-Jun-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: legos biggest mistake is... —James Simpson
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| | | | | | | (...) And America is a prudish country how? Granted, one only hears suggestive nuances on network TV, but how many households have cable? How many people have access to pornography? Virtually all of the people that I have known who have had a (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jun-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: legos biggest mistake is... —Adam Hoekwater
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| | | | | | | | | (...) I think this is an excellent point, but I think there is a difference between the sexual messages that American kids experience, and the ones that European cultures do. You use the word 'pornography', which I interpret as material that is (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jun-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: legos biggest mistake is... —James Simpson
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) I mostly agree with you on this point. Customs regarding modesty can genuinely differ across cultures, and be influenced by climate, history, etc. A topless woman can be attired just as modestly, given the right circumstances, as another woman (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jun-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: legos biggest mistake is... —Mark Sandlin
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) is used (...) divorce (...) Maybe it isn't... but "moral spheres" are very _personal_ spheres. Your spheres might be differently shaped than mine. It's best if we all keep our spheres to ourselves. ~Mark (24 years ago, 21-Jun-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: legos biggest mistake is... —James Simpson
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) My replies: First, how can we each keep our moral spheres to ourselves? When you and I interact, or when anyone interacts, for that matter, the interactions are governed by our moral spheres of understanding regarding how the other person (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jun-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: legos biggest mistake is... —Mark Sandlin
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) our (...) you and I (...) other person (...) Does everyone else and their children deserve to be forced to abide by your particular notion of what is "decent" on a minifig? (...) circle? As differently as there are people and cultures on this (...) (24 years ago, 22-Jun-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: legos biggest mistake is... —James Simpson
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) This is my 4th post in this thread. I have yet to give my opinion regarding the issue of minifig decency. I have merely been debating the issue of public decency. I defer your question to someone else. I will say that I speak as a consumer (...) (24 years ago, 22-Jun-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: legos biggest mistake is... —Christopher L. Weeks
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| | | | | | | | Order rearranged somewhat: (...) A very good question. It is good to see that those participating in arguments require the arguments of their opponents to be supported. It may very well be that the sexual repression common to the popular culture of (...) (24 years ago, 22-Jun-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: legos biggest mistake is... —Jeff Johnston
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| | | | | | (...) Based on my experiences: no. Crayon Shinchan - a popular kids' cartoon a few years back, sort of a Japanese 'Dennis the Menace' - had plenty of nudity (male and female - animated, but still) and sex jokes. Wandering the streets of Osaka, I (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jun-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | Re: legos biggest mistake is... —James Simpson
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| | | | (...) You have not explained how or why an open expression of sexuality is inherently better than "prudishness;" you've merely said that you agree with Europeans instead of Americans. That's fine, but why? Why should we not err on the side of (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jun-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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