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Re: LEGO General/Harry Potter Rant (Was - Re: Harry Potter Creator box art)
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lugnet.harrypotter, lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego
Date: 
Mon, 21 May 2001 18:47:49 GMT
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In lugnet.harrypotter, Matthew Gerber writes:
Hey all,
4) General - Hagrid is a brick. You thought the Creatorfigs were bad? At
least they are mobile! This dumbing-down (juniorization) is really getting
out of hand.

I have mixed feelings about this.

a.  Yes, he's a brick.  Uck.

    However . . .

b.  He is no more immobile than the LEGO Ghost figure, though,
    whose ghostly body prevented the minifig legs from moving,
    if the set bothered to include legs at all.  From this point
    of view, the figure is no more limited in terms of play value
    than a well-established figure that's been out for a decade or
    so.

c.  I hope that the beard fits normal minifigs as well!  I will
    love that hairpiece element if it does, and I will hate it if
    it doesn't.

d.  At least he's just a brick.  If LEGO had bothered to retool
    the minifig completely to make an adult-proportioned minifig, we
    would have even more cause to be concerned that minifigs were
    being phased out entirely.  At least this "just-a-brick" concept
    doesn't threaten the idea of minifigs completely, the way that Creator
    minifigs do.

5) General - Looking at the hair pieces as rendered in 3D on the box cover,
my thought is that LEGO is moving towards blobby chunks of plastic meant to
be "more realistic", instead of well sculpted and detailed elements, to
represent hair. Case in point: The Alpha Team Buzz Cut. An admireable idea,
poorly developed/executed. Every instance of this piece I have seen is flat
in the back left quadrant. Not mis-molded...mis-sculpted. In this age of
computer-aided design and rapid prototyping, there is no reason for this
poor level of element to be produced. And the rounded detail leaves much to
be desired, as the deeply defined hair elements of the past worked much
better to get the point across. BTW: Harry's got a 'fro!

e. I didn't notice any significant sculpting flaw in the buzz-cut
   hairpiece.  Assuming that by "back left quadrant you mean the
   "southwest" portion of the hair (if viewed from the top, with
   the face of the minifig pointing north) I don't see anything
   wrong at all.  Certainly nothing I wouldn't have noticed on
   my own, and nothing that bothers me now that you have
   directed my attention to this portion of the hairpiece.

f.  I don't mind the "smooth" appearance of the buzz-cut.  I
    think that if it was more deeply carved, it might be distracting.
    I like this element.  Comparing it to the "hippy hair" element from
    years ago, I don't notice much difference in the level of detail.

g.  I am thrilled with the hair pieces that we see on the cover of
    this Harry Potter software!  The female hair and the wizard
    hair-and-beard look fantastic (praying, of course, that the
    beard will work on normal minifigs).

6) General - Like some of the other new LEGO product, the faces as
represented on the minifigs on the game box are rendered with very thin
lines. I assume that this is meant to express more detail and realism. While
this is all well and good, the fact that even on different sets in the same
theme, different styles are being used shows a seriously poor coherent whole
across the entire LEGO line. While some face elements use such thin lines
that some are almost non-existent (e.g. Young Anakin), others use similar
line weights to the classic head elements of the past (e.g. Han Solo). Why?

h.  In general, faces with thin lines seem to be pitched at an
    older age, and figs with thick lines seem to be pitched at a
    younger age.

    The thick-lined faces look messy to me.  I'd rather just see a classic
    smiley-face than a face with thick sloppy printing on it.

    I have no complaints about the faces of the Harry Potter figures.
    They look great to me!

    They do wander far afield of the classic smiley, but that is the
    norm for figure faces nowadays.  The thin-lined details appeal to
    me more than the thick-lined details we have seen on some faces in
    the past few years, and look to be on par with the level of detail
    we've seen on some of the best Star Wars faces (Anakin and Qui-gon
    Jinn).

    I do hope that whatever bad-guys there may be in the Harry Potter
    universe don't come with ugly faces.  I'm very tired of LEGO
    promoting the idea that an unattractive person is an evil person, as
    they do in almost any themes with sides that are in conflict with
    each other (example - the 2000 castle sets, with the hideous faces
    of the 'bull' figures, or the scarred faces of the Adventurer bad
    guys, or the snarling faces of the western bad guys).

--

Jeff <jthompson@esker.com>   "Float on a river, forever and ever, Emily"



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  Re: LEGO General/Harry Potter Rant (Was - Re: Harry Potter Creator box art)
 
(...) Good points all, but there would be realy great play value in a new larger scale figure in minifig style, so new scale models could be made with a parent-child type dynamic...not phased out minifigs, just new scale opportunities (look what (...) (24 years ago, 21-May-01, to lugnet.harrypotter, lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)
  Re: LEGO General/Harry Potter Rant (Was - Re: Harry Potter Creator box art)
 
(...) The entertainment industry has portrayed the good guys as young and handsome, while the bad guys are old, fat, ugly, ect. It has been ingrained into us from birth. Just check out those soap operas that women watch and you'll see. And the only (...) (24 years ago, 27-May-01, to lugnet.harrypotter, lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)

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  LEGO General/Harry Potter Rant (Was - Re: Harry Potter Creator box art)
 
Hey all, Caution! Extremely bulky LEGO related ranting follows. Proceed at your own risk! This is also the post I inadvertently deleted last night, and I've attempted to re-create it, though of course I'm not nearly as satisfied with this re-do (...) (24 years ago, 21-May-01, to lugnet.harrypotter, lugnet.general, lugnet.dear-lego)

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