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    Trebuchets —Michael Bosch
   Has anyone ever made one? Anybody got pix? Thanks! Mike (21 years ago, 13-May-03, to lugnet.castle)  
   
        Re: Trebuchets —David Laswell
     (...) I haven't made a trebuchet (it would be an interesting engineering challenge for relatively lightweight LEGO bricks) but I did make a Krana-pult that can launch a Krana over six feet. (21 years ago, 13-May-03, to lugnet.castle)
   
        Re: Trebuchets —Johannes Koehler
     Hello! (...) I'm not sure if I understand the term 'trebuchet' correctly (Catapult, Onager?) but I've built a catapult with (an mediocre good) working spring mechanism: (URL) would rather call it an Onager. Unfortunmatelly the Technic suspension (...) (21 years ago, 13-May-03, to lugnet.castle)
    
         Re: Trebuchets —David Laswell
      (...) I'd never heard of an "onager" before, but a trebuchet is similar to a catapult, but it works more on the lever principle rather than spring tension. Basically you put a really long arm on a pivot point, you hang a huge weight (in olden days (...) (21 years ago, 13-May-03, to lugnet.castle)
     
          Re: Trebuchets —Johannes Koehler
      Hello! (...) Onager: <gr.-lat.>: 1. half-donkey in South-West-Asia; 2. (hist.) Roman throwing machine. Says my dictionary. In German. These Roman catapults were similar to my catapult. Well, I should say mine is similar to their's :-) (...) Thanks (...) (21 years ago, 14-May-03, to lugnet.castle)
    
         Re: Trebuchets —Benjamin Ellermann
      Hi Johannes, I like your catapult. Trebuchet is a french word. The trebuchet has a large weight at one end. The force of gravity brings the weight down, moves the arm, and releases the projectile. In the US we have a public television program called (...) (21 years ago, 13-May-03, to lugnet.castle)
     
          Re: Trebuchets —Stephen Wroble
       (...) Hello Ben, The Discovery Channel had a show about some modern engineers who built a trebuchet. The site includes some links to more info. (It also has a game made by somebody I know.) (URL) (21 years ago, 13-May-03, to lugnet.castle)
      
           Re: Trebuchets —Benjamin Ellermann
       (...) I think I remember seeing this show as well (...) You must have friends in high places! Your game is fun :) (...) Ben (21 years ago, 13-May-03, to lugnet.castle)
      
           Re: Trebuchets —Stephen Wroble
       (...) Glad you enjoyed the game Ben. Actually, they saw the LEGO version on my website and asked if I would do a non-LEGO version for them. Stephen (21 years ago, 13-May-03, to lugnet.castle)
     
          Re: Trebuchets —Johannes Koehler
       Hello! (...) Thanks :-) (...) I wonder how you pronounce the word? In the french manner ("trêbyshée") or like "Treebuttshat" :-) Bye Jojo (21 years ago, 14-May-03, to lugnet.castle)
     
          Re: Trebuchets —Brian H. Nielsen
      (...) designs in it. Here are some images of it: Winching down the arm: (URL) Setting the release trigger: (URL) Loading the sling: (URL) Ready to fire: (URL) The folder after moderation: (URL) A weighted brick is used as the counter-weight, but I (...) (21 years ago, 17-May-03, to lugnet.castle)  
     
          Re: Trebuchets —Josh Wedin
      Hey Brian, Very nice trebuchet! I saw that show too and loved it. You can buy copies of it off of their website. Anyway, your rendition is very cool. I am thinking of building one too after all this talk about them. But now I will be a copycat! :) (...) (21 years ago, 17-May-03, to lugnet.castle)
     
          Re: Trebuchets —Brian H. Nielsen
        I've only gotten it to throw a few feet with the soccer ball. The mini-figs can spit farther! An area that needs serious attention is the sling pocket. The piece of plastic that I'm using now is too slippery and a soccer ball has trouble staying in (...) (21 years ago, 17-May-03, to lugnet.castle)
     
          Re: Trebuchets —Brian H. Nielsen
       As I mentioned I wanted to do in my other post, I've changed to a braided sling pocket and it made a big difference, both in ease of setup and distance. It now throws about 6 feet. Time to see what sling length and end hook gives the best (...) (21 years ago, 18-May-03, to lugnet.castle)
     
          Re: Trebuchets —Nathan Wells
       (...) That's where my trebuchet wouldn't work, that darned sling! The shape of the trebuchet was right and I used two weight bricks for ballast, but it was the sling that stumped me! Any pics of the new sling? Nathan Lord Of The LEGO (21 years ago, 19-May-03, to lugnet.castle)
      
           Re: Trebuchets —Brian H. Nielsen
       (...) I've uploaded 2 new picures: (2 URLs) to my Brickshelf folder: (URL) The first picture shows the new braided sling on the trebuchet and the second is a close-up of just the sling. I used fishnet style braiding. You might find this link useful (...) (21 years ago, 19-May-03, to lugnet.castle)
      
           Re: Trebuchets —Tobbe Arnesson
       (...) Best regards, /Tobbe (URL) SPAM when e-mailing) (21 years ago, 20-May-03, to lugnet.castle)
      
           Re: Trebuchets —Brian H. Nielsen
       (...) Well, I couldn't bring myself to cut a LEGO net down to size (nor tie knots in LEGO string) so I did the next best thing which seemed to be to make my own net. I've always enjoyed knots and splicing, and my son is getting into it too via Boy (...) (21 years ago, 20-May-03, to lugnet.castle)
     
          Re: Trebuchets —Brian H. Nielsen
       I've now also modified my trebuchet to use two weighted bricks in the counter-weight. Here it is cocked, loaded, and ready to fire: (URL) It now throws in the 12-14 foot range, which is a respectable 175-200 yards in mini-fig scale. Brian (...) (21 years ago, 22-May-03, to lugnet.castle)
    
         Re: Trebuchets —Stephen Wroble
      (...) Hello Michael and Jojo, It seems like everyone uses slightly different definitions. Here's how I understand it: Catapult is a generic word and refers to any machine that throws a projectile. A Trebuchet is just a big lever, it can have a (...) (21 years ago, 13-May-03, to lugnet.castle)
     
          Re: Trebuchets —Stephen Wroble
       Sorry about the duplicated information, I didn't reread before I posted. The instructions for LEGO set 6059 are here: (URL) (21 years ago, 13-May-03, to lugnet.castle)
     
          Re: Trebuchets —Stephen Rowe
       (...) hello! great discussion topic. what we generally call a catapult is actually an onager, an effective anti troop area of effect weapon, as they often fired numerous small stones. normally, they were not used to attack walls. instead, the (...) (21 years ago, 13-May-03, to lugnet.castle)
     
          Re: Trebuchets —Johannes Koehler
      Hallo Stephen! Long time no hear... My fault, sorry! (...) I agree 50%. I think a 'catapult' is every (battle) machine that throws things by swinging an arm. I wouldn't call a ballista a 'catapult'. But maybe the German meaning of the word is (...) (21 years ago, 14-May-03, to lugnet.castle)
     
          Re: Trebuchets —Stephen Wroble
      Hallo Jojo, (...) Not that long, a few months only. (...) I see your point. But I believe that the British use the word "catapult" to refer to what Americans call a "slingshot". Children make them from a Y shaped stick and an elastic band, it's used (...) (21 years ago, 14-May-03, to lugnet.castle)
    
         Re: Trebuchets —John P. Henderson
      (...) Ah, definition time... (another one for the Castle FAQ ???) As I understand it, a siege engine or siege machine is any large device used for siege tactics or warfare (this includes catapults, ballistae, rams, moving towers, etc.) during (...) (21 years ago, 14-May-03, to lugnet.castle)
     
          Re: Trebuchets —Stephen Wroble
      Hello John, There's a good write up on medieval siege weapons (they call them "non gunpowder artillery") at: (URL) use this as my main source, but I've found other sites with slightly different information. Stephen (21 years ago, 14-May-03, to lugnet.castle)
     
          Re: Trebuchets —John P. Henderson
      (...) Wow. That really is a great source! I would say any builders with questions about castle weaponry would do well to start there. Thanks for the URL! -Hendo (21 years ago, 16-May-03, to lugnet.castle)
     
          Re: Trebuchets —Stephen Wroble
      I'm glad you liked the siege weapons site. I found it when I was building my catapult. I've started doing more historical research when I build. Not that I'm all that accurate in my MOCs, but I do get some great ideas that way! Stephen (21 years ago, 17-May-03, to lugnet.castle)
    
         Re: Trebuchets —Alan Findlay
     I was quite impressed with your fortress. I especially like the decorations over the main door. Good job on the crenallations (sp?) too. Also, the flues for boiling oil are very good -- I've been trying to figure out how to accomodate that defensive (...) (21 years ago, 15-May-03, to lugnet.castle)
   
        Re: Trebuchets —Anthony Sava
     (...) (URL) (21 years ago, 13-May-03, to lugnet.castle)
   
        Re: Trebuchets —Leonard Hoffman
     not trying to be rude here, but usually when i've got a question like this, the first thing i do is go to (URL) and do a search. here's what i found: (URL) what appears to be 5 different trebuchet designs. also, search lugnet itself. (URL) course (...) (21 years ago, 13-May-03, to lugnet.castle)
    
         Re: Trebuchets —Michael Bosch
     (...) Never crossed my mind. (...) Not really, but I appear to have created quite an active thread for .Castle! :) Mike (21 years ago, 14-May-03, to lugnet.castle)
   
        Re: Trebuchets —Nathan Wells
     (...) I made two; one robotic one with a RCX as weight (not recommended!), and one for a never played Brikwars battle. Sadly I don't have any pix. You might find this interesing: (URL) this helps, Nathan Lord Of The LEGO PS has anyone been able to (...) (21 years ago, 13-May-03, to lugnet.castle)
   
        Re: Trebuchets —Tobbe Arnesson
     (...) rtlToronto have made one. Photos of the Trebuchet: (URL) homepage (see right bottom corner under "Test Events": (URL) friend also built one on a LEGO-fest I held back in April. It's still assembled at home but I have yet to make photos of it (...) (21 years ago, 14-May-03, to lugnet.castle)
   
        Re: Trebuchets —James Stacey
     There's one down the road from my house.. its not made of LEGO tho :) (URL) fire it into the moat as demonstration on festival open days. The shockwave of the boulders hitting the water kill a fair few fish. -- James Stacey ---...--- (...) (21 years ago, 16-May-03, to lugnet.castle)
   
        Re: Trebuchets —David Goeb
   (...) Well with everyone having so much fun on the topic I had to add my two bricks. (URL) 9v Battery Boxes(with bat's). I was interested in seeing if the adding of wheels (mentioned on Nova) made diff on range. Not much with out a sling but... It (...) (21 years ago, 20-May-03, to lugnet.castle)
 

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