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Re: Trebuchets
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Date: 
Tue, 13 May 2003 17:42:35 GMT
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In lugnet.castle, Stephen Wroble writes:
In lugnet.castle, Johannes Koehler writes:
Hello!


Has anyone ever made one?  Anybody got pix?  Thanks!

I'm not sure if I understand the term 'trebuchet' correctly (Catapult,
Onager?)

hello!
great discussion topic. what we generally call a catapult is actually an
onager, an effective anti troop area of effect weapon, as they often fired
numerous small stones. normally, they were not used to attack walls.
instead, the attackers would build seige towers or used capped battering
rams to bring down the walls.

Hello Michael and Jojo,

It seems like everyone uses slightly different definitions. Here's how I
understand it:

Catapult is a generic word and refers to any machine that throws a projectile.

A Trebuchet is just a big lever, it can have a weight or use manpower to swing
the arm. Most of the LEGO catapults have been trebuchets and you use your
finger to make it throw. But LEGO did have a weighted trebuchet in set 6059,
you can find instructions on Brickshelf.

a very good definition, however, if i may add, the way in which a trebuchet
lobs its missiles is also the defining charactaristic. typically, catapults
(onagers) ballistas, and other seige weapons attack the face of the
building, or, the front. they lob or shoot objects in a low arch forward,
also making them effective anti troop weapons. however, the trebuchet lobs
it's missile in a very high arch, which allows it to shoot very far, and
come down on top of buildings, where they are not as strong. this is what
makes the so devastating. the trebuchets that we see pictures of are
actually highly complicated machines, and it takes a mathematition to figure
out how to aim them, but they are extremely accurate, more so than any other
missile type seige weapon.

A Ballista is a big crossbow and can throw rocks or darts. Daniel Siskind has a
few ballista's on his Brickmania site.

http://www.brickmania.com/Gallery2/castle/castles.html

Denis Pouchain has several different catapults at his Avolonnia site:

http://www.avalonnia.net/

(Under "Constructions, Machines de Guerre")

And so does Anthony Sava at his Ikros site:

http://www.ozbricks.com/ikros/siege.html

An Onager is a catapult that uses some sort of spring to throw the weight. I
would call your catapult an onager. I have one at my site. I tried to use a
ladder as the spring, but it only throws about 6 inches.

http://swroble.home.att.net/Projects/Things/Catapult/Catapult.html

Denis Pouchain has several different catapults at his Avolonnia site:

http://www.avalonnia.net/

(Under "Constructions, Machines de Guerre")

And so does Anthony Sava at his Ikros site:

http://www.ozbricks.com/ikros/siege.html

Stephen

thanks for all the cool links :-)

steve rowe



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(...) Hello Michael and Jojo, It seems like everyone uses slightly different definitions. Here's how I understand it: Catapult is a generic word and refers to any machine that throws a projectile. A Trebuchet is just a big lever, it can have a (...) (22 years ago, 13-May-03, to lugnet.castle)

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