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(...) Two things here are wrong: 1) copyrights can be transferred. they can be assigned or liscenced, but the original copyright holder is always the copyright holder. when people sign away thier copyrights, they are typically signing a liscence (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) (disclosure: I am not a lawyer. These are just the opinions of a semi-logical mind.) From reading the document, it appears as though the CA gives LDraw the authority to release the parts at all. LDraw has no formal agreement (e.g. a written (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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The second LSC vote has terminated. The 2004-2005 LDraw.org Standards Committee is: Jacob Sparre Andersen Steve Bliss Tore Eriksson Lars Hassing Orion Pobursky There were a total of 16 respondents. -Tim (20 years ago, 22-Jul-04, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) I'm not really sure what the CA says at this point in time. I was basing my statement off of the "Moving the LIcense Forward" message that Tim posted. (URL) In short, Tim stated that the both a CCAL (Createive Commons Attribution License) and (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) They are? The proposed CA doesn't say that, and that's not (necessarily) its intent. The CA is about the author granting LDraw.org a distribution license, along with further protections. Now, maybe that's what we *should* be talking about -- (...) (20 years ago, 21-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) I honestly think that the CA immediately violates the CCAL (Creative Commons Attribution License) section 4a and is, thus, intrinsically unenforcable due to section 7a. Please read my other response to Orion the more complete response. (...) (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
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(...) Orion: I'm not a lawyer, but I'll give you my opinion for what it is worth... In my opinion, the problem is that LDraw.Org has no legal authority to change a part license unless it owns the copyright to the part. Here is the relevant verbiage (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) I am not quite sure that is true (although I can argue for it in terms of Danish contract law). (...) It depends (the usual answer, when you start discussing legal problems). The problem I can see with the CA is related to the way it gives (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
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(...) You make some very good points. I do have one question though: Isn't getting the Author to agree to the change procedure the same as them giving to consent to change? In other words, I give permission to change the license if the follow (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
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(...) Orion: The Creative Commons Attribution License (CCAL) is irrevocable (read section 7.) You can not lose a part that has been released under CCAL. The original author is free to stop distributing the original work (in this case a part), but (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
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(...) The CA really isn't a license in the traditional since. It's intended to be a codification of the current way we run acceptance of contributions (i.e. the status quo in words) with a little explanitory text thrown in and a procedure for (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: Contributer Agreement Version 3
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I've been away the past week, hence my lack of contribution until now... What problem does the CA solve? Since all of the parts are individually released under a creative commons attribution license, there is nothing to prevent LDraw.Org (or me for (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Here's a link to Version 2 and the follow on discussion: (URL) version 3 of the CA. Again, if you have criticism, please also offer a solution if warrented. Changes: - Got rid of the "No Response" option. This is now incorporated into the text of (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw) !
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| | Re: LDraw Sessions @ SIGGRAPH
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(...) As far as I know this are accessible to everyone, from the lowest cost pass on up. -Orion (20 years ago, 19-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.events, lugnet.loc.us.ca.la, FTX)
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| | Re: LDraw Sessions @ SIGGRAPH
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(...) Cool, do you know if either of these sessions are accessable with the "Exhibits Plus" registrations? I'd like to save a few hundred bucks :) Take care, Gary (20 years ago, 19-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.events, lugnet.loc.us.ca.la, FTX)
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| | LDraw Sessions @ SIGGRAPH
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LDraw.org will host two back-to-back Birds of a Feather sessions at (URL) SIGGRAPH 2004> this year. Last year was LDraw.org's first year participating in SIGGRAPH. LDraw activities included an activity area at a LEGO fan booth and an introductory (...) (20 years ago, 19-Jul-04, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad, lugnet.events, lugnet.loc.us.ca.la, FTX) !
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| | Re: Contributer Agreement v2
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(...) I'd like a no-cost restriction. In other words, anything covered can be distributed for free. This doesn't mean you can't charge, it just means that you don't have to charge. Or maybe all this is implied by the above? Do we need to explicitly (...) (20 years ago, 16-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: Contributer Agreement v2
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(...) Yes, you're right, a combo of 1 & 2 should cover 3. When I was trimming so much out of your license I should have been more careful in adding bits :) Can anyone think of anything that ought to be in 'Base Level' of rights ? Peter (20 years ago, 16-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: Contributer Agreement v2
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(...) <snip> I like the rest of your comments so I've snipped them out. I do have a qustion on the below. (...) Isn't 3 redundant and cover by the 1? -Orion (20 years ago, 16-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: Contributer Agreement v2
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Here is my take on this second version of the license Peter (...) And you've changed the first EndUser license from Creative Commons Share Alike License [1] to Creative Commons Attribute License [2] I presume this was because of the ShareAlike (...) (20 years ago, 16-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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