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  Re: Java LDraw/LDLite
 
(...) problems are you having with it? Cheers, - jsproat (26 years ago, 3-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: L3PAO
 
(...) That's MS's Visual Basic 4.0 32-bit run-time library. I always grabbed acopy from Simtel, though Winfiles should have a copy as well. Cheers, - jsproat (26 years ago, 3-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  L3PAO
 
I just downloaded this program, and I get an "Error Starting Program" window. It says, "A required .DLL file, VB40032.DLL, was not found." Any help, folx? --Karim (26 years ago, 3-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Java LDraw/LDLite
 
Hmm... I went back to the site and downloaded it, had no problems, but I was planning to put up the source code anyway. When it gets there, it'll be under (URL) wrote in message <36DDB71A.B1E74334@g...es.com>... (...) (26 years ago, 3-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Java LDraw/LDLite
 
(...) Could you possibly post the source code? Cheers, - jsproat (26 years ago, 3-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Java LDraw/LDLite
 
Talk is cheep. I spent the last couple of days trying to pound out a quick Java Ldraw program. Check out the results: (URL) as an Applet is way too slow. Its best to download jre and try it with that: (URL) that this is terribly buggy right now and (...) (26 years ago, 3-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Flattened Primitives (was Re: 1x1 and 2x2 chess sets)
 
(...) I doubt it's laziness, since a default insertion has a 1 in the yy column. There was talk in the primitives group about using the discs and rings for cones. Since we would have to go through and "fix" any parts which put a 1 in the yy column, (...) (26 years ago, 3-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad, lugnet.build)
 
  Re: Flattened Primitives (was Re: 1x1 and 2x2 chess sets)
 
(...) (I didn't claim it would be easy) Of course, the more information stored in a translation, the harder it is to customize. And load into a program to use the information. (...) (BTW, I meant 'mistake' as in a typo or a sub-optimal approach to (...) (26 years ago, 3-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Flattened Primitives (was Re: 1x1 and 2x2 chess sets)
 
(...) That is wrong? Gee, I had no idea. I've used lines like that a lot, because I've seen them used in other part files, and they seemed to be more elegant than "1 16 x y z 10 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 10 4-4disc.dat" when the primitive is flat in y-direction (...) (26 years ago, 3-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad, lugnet.build)
 
  (canceled)
 
 
  RE: Flattened Primitives (was Re: 1x1 and 2x2 chess sets)
 
(...) I agree. (...) It's not that simple. Together with the POV substitution string I also have other data like the BoundingBox of the primitive, which is used e.g. in the automatic camera positioning. I think it is troublesome to have this kind of (...) (26 years ago, 3-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad, lugnet.build)
 
  Flattened Primitives (was Re: 1x1 and 2x2 chess sets)
 
[Cross-posted to original newsgroups, and lugnet.cad.dev. Followup-To set to lugnet.cad.dev] (...) It's probably easier to make high-quality parts in LGEO, but it should be possible to make them in LDraw, run them through L3P, and get equivalent (...) (26 years ago, 3-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.build, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: More parts feedback
 
(...) Let me first say that I reversed the order of the description (i.e. chain link -> link chain) to make sure they sorted correctly. When it comes to your question, it's an interesting idea, but I'm not sure I like it too much. The length of a (...) (26 years ago, 3-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: [3068 with groove] (was:DAT voting page up)
 
(...) Yes. (...) I don't think so. (...) Yes. (...) Here's another: 3062 brick 1 x 1 round 3 versions- no lip at the bottom, closed stud, and open stud. --Bram Bram Lambrecht / o o \ BramL@juno.com ---...---oooo-----(_...o---...--- WWW: (URL) (26 years ago, 3-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: More parts feedback
 
(...) I think I'd center the stud on y=0. (...) That would work, too. But black doesn't work. (...) The Technic micro-motor is all one file. Which is fine -- isn't its shaft circular? The Technic Electric 9V Motor (2937A.dat) is done in three (...) (26 years ago, 3-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: More parts feedback
 
(...) Would you do the same for the 2574 Pull-Back Motor ? It should be possible to rotated the wheels. Leonardo (26 years ago, 3-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: More parts feedback
 
(...) I will put it on hold. -- Terry K -- (26 years ago, 3-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Java LDraw/LDLite
 
(...) Yep, it is ARJ. Specifically ARJ version 2.30. I don't recall anything about launching another program from the extractor in this version (which is pretty old) A quick search of the docs didn't turn up anything either. -- Terry K -- (26 years ago, 3-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: LF vs. CRLF in server .DAT script
 
(...) Indeed! Full-on :-( (...) Oh. Sorry, it probably wasn't a GPF. After all these years I'm still in the habit of saying something "GPF'd on me." I don't even think that's what MS calls it anymore. Well anyhow, the screen flashed and then LDLITE (...) (26 years ago, 3-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: More parts feedback
 
Steve Bliss wrote in message <36dc5cd4.12366728@l...et.com>... (...) This really should be fixed before the update. The center of the shaft should be at x=0, z=0. I would put the bottom of the shaft at y=0, too. (...) Why do you say this? I think (...) (26 years ago, 2-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  More parts feedback
 
Here are my comments on the remainder of the parts in the vote. The "I don't have this part" comments are there so y'all'll know I couldn't verify the accuracy of this part, I only looked for obvious problems. I believe all of the patterned parts (...) (26 years ago, 2-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Java LDraw/LDLite
 
(...) That would be a challenge -- there's no master list of all DATs on the system, so it would be a matter of searching the hard-drive, but only updating valid LDraw DAT files. Blech. There should (and may be) a utility that can clean up all files (...) (26 years ago, 2-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: Java LDraw/LDLite
 
(...) That's me. (...) This only works for models in ldraw\models, but not for any in sub-directories. I'm not sure how one would go about automating the update of models in arbitrary directories. Cheers, - jsproat (26 years ago, 2-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: Part Numbering Crisis in LDraw
 
(...) The big problem is someone has to notice the new color, and then someone has to make the change in the next part update. Why subject ourselves to this headache? (...) But we aren't zipped, and there are plenty of people with Win95/FAT16 hard (...) (26 years ago, 2-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: [3068 with groove] (was:DAT voting page up)
 
(...) Part #3945, the 1x2 plate with two side handles. Steve (26 years ago, 2-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Java LDraw/LDLite
 
(...) The editors I know of (LEdit and LDAO) don't automatically update moved parts. But it is a good idea that they should do so. I'm adding it to my list of suggestions. (...) It seems like someone (Lars? Tore? Leo?) wrote a program that would (...) (26 years ago, 2-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: [3068 with groove] (was:DAT voting page up)
 
(...) 3945.DAT Plate 1 x 2 with Handles (URL) don't know about this part nowadays, but I remember back in the days of classic space that this part came in _many_ versions. At least I can remember three different. Some has 2 unit long handles with (...) (26 years ago, 2-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: [3068 with groove] (was:DAT voting page up)
 
Earls HouseHold wrote in message ... (...) I've always thought it was pretty stupid to reply to your own post. So, call me stupid. Here the list of changed parts I've been able to come with. It is in no way complete or do I say it is correct. Any (...) (26 years ago, 2-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: [3068 with groove] (was:DAT voting page up)
 
Paul Gyugyi wrote in message <36DB9CF5.6A730D96@g...yi.com>... (...) Now here is a good example of how TLG/LDraw part numbers come in handy. Paul, I'm unsure as to what part is a 1x2 plate with laser prongs. Has it been modeled in LDraw? If not, (...) (26 years ago, 2-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Java LDraw/LDLite
 
On my PPro150, LDLite has the following benchmarks: syntax example: ldlite_1_6.exe -MC -V3 car.dat Model Time ----- ---- car.dat 3.6 seconds wood4.dat 5.0 seconds (new syntax) bwing.dat 14.2 seconds (-S0.5) m928.dat 23.0 seconds (clipped) m928.dat (...) (26 years ago, 2-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: [3068 with groove] (was:DAT voting page up)
 
My favorite part change is the 1x2 plate with laser prongs. The height of the prongs in relation to the 1x2 plate has changed, and the two versions do not line up. -gyug (...) (26 years ago, 2-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Modeling without the real element -- bad
 
Any Saturday Night Live fans out there? "Welcome to the, how do you say? Ah Yes, Anal Retentive Show, and I am your host Antonio Baldaraz." "See senior, you are the anal one, my friend, har ahr" <guitar> 'Is something misaligned in here?" "Oh no! (...) (26 years ago, 2-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LF vs. CRLF in server .DAT script
 
Re: CR/LF, what a waste of bandwidth! 1/2 :) Re: \010: Was it really a GPF? LDLite should have hit the characters, recognized them as garbage, and ignored the line, and maybe exit-ed without doing anything. If it was a GPF, I'll try and duplicate (...) (26 years ago, 2-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  castle parts wanted
 
has anyone made the corner turret top piece? what about the large corner wall with the window? what about the 6090 porticullis holder with the groove? (26 years ago, 2-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Part Numbering Crisis in LDraw
 
(...) Why's that such a big problem? I mean... it's not like a 20 byte part file, or 10000 of them, will take up a significant amount of space. Especially zipped, when you don't have to worry about cluster sizes. By the time there are so many (...) (26 years ago, 1-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Java LDraw/LDLite
 
(...) What happens when a part is move, with a moved_to file, and a model is loaded and edited? Does the editor save the _new_ part number, or the old? If you have it automatically saving the _new_ part number, you could make a ~moved_to file for (...) (26 years ago, 1-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad)
 
  Re: Is Ldraw FAQ mistaken...?
 
(...) Umm, I dunno. Lemme check a second... Without actually running data through the logic, you appear to be correct. The code is comparing the second two points to the line through the first two points. (...) Could be. How tired and hungry are (...) (26 years ago, 1-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: VOTING now working
 
I use the same voting policy as Steve, and there were lots I had to abstain on (...) (26 years ago, 1-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Is Ldraw FAQ mistaken...?
 
(URL) states: Optional-Line command. Draws a line between the first two points, if the projections of both points onto the screen are on the same side of an imaginary line between the projections of the last two points onto the screen. Shouldn't it (...) (26 years ago, 1-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Part Numbering Crisis in LDraw
 
(...) True, you wouldn't be able to use the related part numbers as parts, but you could search for them (especially once some software uses the KEYWORDS and CATEGORY meta-commands) (...) That would be the problem. Are these real parts, or not? If (...) (26 years ago, 1-Mar-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)


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