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  LDraw.exe
 
Okay, I'v been a user of "LDraw" for several months now, and yet I haven't figured out how to run LDraw.exe. All I get is the DOS window saying, "your pop-up program is ready to run. When you have finished using it, press ctrl+c to close this window (...) (24 years ago, 28-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  I can't run L3P
 
Hi, Lars, I recently downloaded L3P and went through the instructions, setting the paths for L3P and LDraw. But when I type in the command C:\> l3p car.dat it says, "This program cannot be run in DOS mode". Do you know what I can do to get it (...) (24 years ago, 28-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: *** LDView v0.9 Released ***
 
(...) Well, it looks like you caught me on that one. I have not read the read-me file... :-) I will get to it right away. I didn't even think about using the right mouse button. Ooops! Thank you for reminding me to read it. Paul (24 years ago, 28-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Does this part exist?
 
(...) You're right, but we don't have to add keywords to *every* file. Just the ones that are hard to find. The hinge-rod-with-end-stud is definitely one of the part files that needs keywords added. Steve (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Does this part exist?
 
(...) Heh. I had a lot of trouble finding this one too. "Lever Control" is not exactly an intuitive name for it. What's LDList? Kevin ---...--- Personal Lego Web page: (URL) Park: Limited edition kit (URL) Kits & Custom Lego models: (URL) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
 
  Re: Another license draft
 
I have some issues, mostly minor, one major. (...) Which is who? This needs to be addressed somewhere. (...) Minor issue: strike ".", add "and the various programs and systems of datamodels that allow Computer Aided Design (creation) of (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: *** LDView v0.9 Released ***
 
(...) I don't know if this will help or not, but the Ldlite polling code is also available. The link to the Ldlite 2.0 source is broken, but you can still get the original Ldlite 1.6 source from the bottom of the ldglite page at the sourceforge (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Another license draft
 
Hi, After some more dicussion, I have come to the following proposal for the license. It's much simpler than Steve's first license but I think it covers all important points. I have also copied some parts of the GPL text because I think they are (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev) ! 
 
  Re: Does this part exist?
 
(...) nor a control, IMNSHO. My point stands, we need better characterisation, better ways to find parts, less reliance on memorization of quirky names and , for goodness sake, less need for memorization of part numbers! ++Lar (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: tubing
 
(...) OK, I have done a similar thing in my PCC which uses yellow tubing for handrails. the tubing needs to be 14 plates high so I changed the length -20 to -14*8 by hand in the mpd to get the length right, then moved/rotated the tubing around in (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.mlcad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  RE: Does this part exist?
 
(...) Is it: 2433 Lever Control ? A good set of keywords and more exposure of LDList (which is very useful for finding parts) would probably benefit the parts library, but it'd be such a pain to add all those keywords... Hope that helps, --Bram Bram (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
 
  Re: Does this part exist?
 
That would be the lever controll, larry (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Does this part exist?
 
(...) Larry, its 2433 and under Lever? Kind of wacky I think. Here is a link to confirm for you. (URL) that helps, Eric Kingsley The New England LEGO Users Group (URL) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Does this part exist?
 
As an example of how I can't find parts in our current system, I am asking about this part. It probably exists and I missed it. - It is a member of the 2-3 finger hinge system. - it has a 3 finger hinge at one end - this joins a rod system sized rod (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: *** LDView v0.9 Released ***
 
"Paul Easter" <pneaster@knoxy.net> wrote in message news:G1J5It.Fvr@lugnet.com... [S*N*I*P] (...) not (...) The right mouse button should still work. Click the right button and move up or down to zoom in or out. (I actually didn't add scroll wheel (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: *** LDView v0.9 Released ***
 
(...) Sounds good. I may be jumping the gun just a bit on this one. So far I do not have any "real" parts that use these primitives yet. So there is no rush on it. Although, I could see them being used if available. I have started to use the Hi-res (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: *** LDView v0.9 Released ***
 
Well, LDView doesn't use MFC; will it be useful to a non-MFC app? If it might be, go ahead and send it to me in e-mail. (Yes, I know, writing a Windows app without using MFC will probably seem unusual--and possibly even insane to some--but quite (...) (24 years ago, 27-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Parts authoring with sub parts (HELP NEEDED !!)
 
(...) Hmm. Try viewing your main file in L3Lab -- that will tell you whether or not it can find the subpart files. Steve (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Parts license
 
(...) My thoughts: ARJ to ZIP? Simple Conversion ASCII to EBCDIC? Simple Conversion text to binary? Essential change reorganizing the directory structure? Major change posting all the files individually on a webserver? Major change (...) Hmmm. (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Parts authoring with sub parts (HELP NEEDED !!)  [DAT]
 
(...) Hi, I'm trying to re-order my 2865.dat file with subparts, but it's not working. I'll placed the s\14S01.dat in the main file for test purpose. i do have following into the main file (Parts directory): 0 9V straight train track 0 Name: (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Parts authoring with sub parts
 
(...) is (...) parts. (...) O.K. Steve, I'll break it in sub parts for reuse in other track parts as curved track, points and cross. When reddy, i'll repost it. regards and thanks for the answer. Ludo (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: *** LDView v0.9 Released ***
 
(...) Hey, I believe that's my cue to resume my nagging about the L3Lab source code ;-) Why not just release it all? Just a thought... I'll be quiet now. Don (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: *** LDView v0.9 Released ***
 
"Travis Cobbs" wrote... (...) If you are interested, I can e-mail you the L3Lab polling code. It is built on top of MFC Doc/View, but I'm sure you can bend it. /Lars (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: *** LDView v0.9 Released ***
 
"Paul Easter" <pneaster@knoxy.net> wrote in message news:G1HCxz.I8G@lugnet.com... (...) would (...) todo (...) I'm pretty sure you're asking for an option to use the files in th 48 subdirectory; is this correct? I'm definitely going to add the (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: *** LDView v0.9 Released ***
 
(...) Hello, It works great for me so far... Is there any chance of getting a high-res (48pt) 1-4cyls and 1-4cyls2 substitutions in there? I am working on the primitive files, also working on a torus generation spread sheet. See my todo (inprocess) (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: *** LDView v0.9 Released ***
 
"Terry K" <legoverse@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:G1H3qH.Kst@lugnet.com... (...) to (...) added (...) viewer (...) Thanks for the comments. This should already work. I added command line filename support in version 0.7. I haven't created an (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: *** LDView v0.9 Released ***
 
(...) Couple of feature requests: 1. Have it accept model files when launching. You know, pass the filename to the program as it starts. This would make for an excellent viewer when added to the right-click menu in explorer. And it could also be (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Parts license
 
(...) I think a monetary limit on a redistribution charge is better than disallowing fees entirely, which I think is what Jacob wanted. My point is that if it actually costs money to distribute, and you prevent cost recovery, you discourage people (...) (24 years ago, 26-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Who are 'ldraw.org'? (was: Parts license)
 
"Leonardo Zide" <leonardo@centroin.com.br> wrote in message news:39CFBA54.A0214F....com.br... (...) Yup. (...) I still say that we need a dedicated subgroup of Lugnuts to take care of LCAD - whether it pertains to all of LCAD or to just the people (...) (24 years ago, 25-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDLite extended syntax (was: Re: Parts license)
 
(...) No, I havn't, but past performance is no indication of future results. :) (...) Oh, I just trimmed down the page because it was too long. That should all still be in the readme files. -gyug (24 years ago, 25-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Parts license
 
(...) By category, probably. On slow disk systems, it may be adventagous to pre-load and cache an entire category of common parts. It also opens to door for people to release a collection of pieces only as a complete set. One might choose to put the (...) (24 years ago, 25-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Parts license
 
(...) I think all of those examples are simply conversions to other formats, they don't change the contents of the files. This could be added to the 'Definitions' section of the license. (...) From the zlib license: 1. The origin of this software (...) (24 years ago, 25-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Who are 'ldraw.org'? (was: Parts license)
 
(...) I thought there could be both ldraw.org and LCAD, where ldraw.org is a subgroup from the LCAD community. But that's not important now. :) (...) Why not use Lugnet (1) ? We could use it instead of ldraw.org, so we wouldn't need to have any new (...) (24 years ago, 25-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Who are 'ldraw.org'? (was: Parts license)
 
(...) I think one of the points of creating GPL was to have a 'brokering party' available for everyone who wants to use it. There's no need to modify anything. Here's an paragraph from the GPL: 10. If you wish to incorporate parts of the Program (...) (24 years ago, 25-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Parts license
 
(...) Ok. I see your point. (...) (24 years ago, 24-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Parts license
 
(...) I think we have a little latitude, since TYCO, MegaBloks, Block-Men, and others have produced actual bricks of nearly identical dimensions as LEGO. It seems to me that if an actual product can be produced with such close similarity, a virtual (...) (24 years ago, 25-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Parts authoring with sub parts  [DAT]
 
(...) I'd say that yes, it's worth it to use it as a subpart. To do this, take the code for the 'click' mechanism, copy it to another file. Subpart files are distributed in the parts\s\ directory. To refer to these files, you have to include the (...) (24 years ago, 25-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Parts license
 
(...) This is a good point, and I agree with it. I don't know if it has anything to do with copyright or not. (...) As I understand it (and IANAL), 'copyright' applies to the expression of ideas. So you can hold copyright on a file, which prevents (...) (24 years ago, 25-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Who are 'ldraw.org'? (was: Parts license)
 
(...) Like I (just now) replied to Larry, this situation is a bit different, because ldraw.org/LCAD would also be brokering the agreements between contributors and users. I'm not sure that can be done, without having some recognition (in the (...) (24 years ago, 25-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Parts license
 
(...) The general POV from the Jessimans is they are trusting us to do what is right/best. I take that to mean they are likely to agree to what we want to do, but we will definitely want to ask for express agreement, once we have a concrete (...) (24 years ago, 25-Sep-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)


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