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  Re: Influencing what parts people work on
 
(...) Oops, I'm responding in public. Oh, well. I think my comments are fodder for the public, anyway. Jonathan Knudsen has already shown that it's possible to get parts drawn on request. I know he got at least three respondents, probably more. And (...) (25 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)  
 
  Re: Type-5 conditional edge line
 
In lugnet.cad.dev, Fredrik Glöckner wrote: [snippety] (...) Yes, your conditional line should be fine. When the triangles are viewed like: 4 /|\ / |.3 / .| /. | 2----1 points 1 and 3 are on the same side of the 2-4 line, so the conditional line will (...) (25 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)  
 
  Re: Influencing what parts people work on
 
(...) followed by silence from everyone else. Wrong group? Drop me a note if you think I should have posted this somewhere else... Thanks! The charter for cad.dat.parts didn't quite seem to fit. ++Lar (25 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
 
  Re: What is BFC meta command ?  [DAT]
 
(...) The best thing to do for now is to make sure that you are writing clean code. The big difference with BFC-able files is there's a sense of 'front' and 'back' for polygons. So you need to make sure that your part files are written to (...) (25 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: L3PLiTE?
 
(...) I seem to remember there was a fair amount of discussion on the connections/hot-points issue. My contribution to the discussion amounted to this, more or less: Because of the large number of ways LEGO pieces can be inter-connected, we need to (...) (25 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Identifying connections (Was: L3PLiTE?)
 
[ FUT lugnet.cad.dev ] Leonardo: (...) I think it is time to think about identifying connections. What about using an empty piece named "-stud.dat" that should be placed exactly, including orientation, where a "properly" connected stud should be (...) (25 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: What is BFC meta command ?
 
John Jensen <skurt@vip.cybercity.dk> wrote in message news:ep26eso7d3ct4ll...4ax.com... (...) know what it is... (...) Then you can make your part BFC compatible by making sure that the points of a triangle or quad follow a clockwise path when the (...) (25 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Type-5 conditional edge line
 
Fredrik Glöckner <fredrik.glockner@bio.uio.no> wrote in message news:m3pus9zd3x.fsf@...ldomain... (...) It looks good to me. I'm pretty sure this is how it is done on the sphere primitives. -John Van (25 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: L3PLiTE?
 
(...) I searched my backup disks and couldn't find a version of the library with the connections information. I fixed about 100 files, making them BFC compliant and with the connection information but I lost everything after I changed the format of (...) (25 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: BFC: LITS 2
 
(...) Well I have to congratulate you for the effort ! Has always, when asked to, you provide some nice output! ;) So now let's discuss it. Just reply to my previous replys to "LITS 2" mails. I have to say, that I'don't actually have time know to (...) (25 years ago, 3-Apr-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: BFC: LITS 2
 
(...) I believe that the only problem is that these matrixes can't be inverted ! I'not sure if placing a one on the specific place has exactly the same graphic behaviour ? can someone confirm ? (...) Use my proposal: 0 CERTIFY BFC MTX where MTX is (...) (25 years ago, 2-Apr-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: BFC: LITS 2
 
(...) I have to read this better to make an opinion, later ! (...) Now you don't like local clipping anymore ? too or tree mails before you were in favour or am I mistaken ? I should we make complicated spec for clipping, just because of one stupid (...) (25 years ago, 2-Apr-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: BFC: LITS 2
 
I read the current proposal, and I have this to say: I don't agree with the following paragraph when an entire branch has to have cliping on to be able to be culled, don't think so. ( I know about the invert case, solution required ) 4 Control of (...) (25 years ago, 2-Apr-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: BFC: LITS 2
 
(...) I agree with the default from the start, I proposed them, somewhere ! (...) Agreed! but that's NOT currently written that way, is it ? (...) NO it is NOT ! read on. (...) I know that the branch only would be required, but I don't agree with (...) (25 years ago, 2-Apr-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Influencing what parts people work on
 
As you know, The Guild of Bricksmiths, (URL) a big user of LDraw compatible tools, since Guild members are producing instructions for almost all of their kits. From time to time a Guildsman runs into a part he or she would really like to use in a (...) (25 years ago, 2-Apr-00, to lugnet.cad.dev) ! 
 
  Re: BFC: LITS 2
 
(...) I think the discussion started before the "line in The Sand" thread ! (...) It seems that it is currently on version 9 ! isn't it ?, but file name was NOT changed, OK. (...) Well, if my memory doesn't fail me, I taught you were against local (...) (25 years ago, 2-Apr-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Time for BFC overhaul?
 
(...) Didn't answer the question, but moving on. (...) That's good to know. (...) Yes, but the proposed standard doesn't list the several options for a specific issue thta asn't been agreed iet. List the options, that's my point, because if you (...) (25 years ago, 2-Apr-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  LDS ver 0.31 - Added PIPE
 
New version again. Same URL as usual. (URL) /Tore (25 years ago, 2-Apr-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad)  
 
  Re: A discovery? and part 3475
 
(...) Oops, sorry 'bout that. (...) Wow, you're working with the horse? You have my deepest respect! I think that using one tool or another is mostly a matter of taste. I haven't written LDraw-mode to compete with anybody else's tool, but because I (...) (25 years ago, 2-Apr-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: A discovery? and part 3475
 
(...) Not just 4-4edge - it takes all between 1/16 through 16/16 and 1/48 through 48/48. (...) I see (I think...) If the two arbitrary connected curves run parallelly, I use LDS' EXTRUDE function, if not, I have to make arrangements like this in (...) (25 years ago, 2-Apr-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: A discovery? and part 3475
 
(...) related. Quite a coincident! Your function takes two (or more) 4-4edge primitives and connects them with quads, to create a "pipe" like object. My function takes two arbitrary connected curves made up of type-2 lines and fills in the space (...) (25 years ago, 2-Apr-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: A discovery? and part 3475
 
I haven't followed this thread, but after a brief glance, I think it is closely related to the PIPE function I (...) (25 years ago, 2-Apr-00, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: A discovery? and part 3475
 
(...) I have made a function in LDraw-mode which does this. In your example, you would put the cursor on the first type-2 line in the first edge, set the mark (C-SPC) move down to the first type-2 line in the second curve and hit C-c C-f. Voila. The (...) (25 years ago, 2-Apr-00, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Type-5 conditional edge line
 
I have a question about the type-5 conditional line. Assume I have four points in 3d space like this: (If you're reading LUGNET via the web interface, you must push "view raw message" to see my ASCII art.) 1---2 | | | | | | 4---3 Except that the (...) (25 years ago, 1-Apr-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)  
 
  PIPE function...  [DAT]
 
I've made a new function for LDS called PIPE. It's an extension of the LINE function. Remember:? LINE POINT x y z POINT x y z ... POINT x y z LINE END Now, PIPE works the same way but with that difference it's in 3D: PIPE [n_sectors total_sectors] (...) (25 years ago, 1-Apr-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)  
 
  Re: What is BFC meta command ?
 
(...) What if I am creating a new part? Regards John (25 years ago, 1-Apr-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: BFC: LITS 2
 
Steve: (...) No. - Or rather: That depends on how good looking a rendering you want. Thinking a bit more about it, I think we can get just as good result _with_ clipping of transparent surfaces as without. Yes, transparent surfaces can be clipped! (...) (25 years ago, 1-Apr-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: BFC: LITS 2
 
Fifth and final in the series. Summary of the recap. This concludes my review of the "Line in the Sand" thread. If I have overlooked any issues, important or trivial, feel free to point them out. If there's something I didn't mention in this thread, (...) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: BFC: LITS 2
 
Fourth in the series, starting with message #41 in the "Line in the Sand" thread. Notice that I scanned past a number of messages before I got another 'open issue' hit. This posting covers up to & through message #83, the end of the thread. In (...) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)  
 
  Re: BFC: LITS 2
 
Here's the third message in my review of the "Line in the Sand" thread. This message covers my review from message #28 to message #40 in the thread (sorted by thread-view, not chronology). That's (URL) for the start, and (URL) for the finish. (...) (...) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: BFC: LITS 2
 
Second in a series, collect them all... (...) I believe the language around the 'defaults' has been cleared up sufficiently. (...) Hmm. I don't think there was much more discussion about whether every file should have an explicit 0 BFC CCW CLIP (...) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)  
 
  Re: open source & inventory ?
 
(...) ldlite is open source. Ldlite is a viewer for ldraw .dat files. (...) There is a way to do what you want, if you have dat files of a lego set, using steve blisses ldraw addon. (...) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  open source & inventory ?
 
Hello, I've just resently discovered Ldraw and Mlcad and I'm absolutely amazed at the power of these programs, allthough I've not yet build a real model (other than the tutorial). I have got 2 questions however. 1) Are any of the programs open (...) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  BFC: LITS 2
 
Rui has stated that there are outstanding issues with the BFC proposal that are not included in the issues list at the start of that proposal. With this message, I am going to review the messages from the "Line in the Sand" thread, which started at (...) (25 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Time for BFC overhaul?
 
(...) In lugnet.cad.dev, Rui Martins wrote: (...) I'm glad I didn't let you down. ;) (...) Because it's easier than rereading the entire thread of 83 messages where we went through all this before. Seriously. But I will attempt to go through that (...) (25 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Problem with 1-4con1.dat
 
Steve Bliss <blisses@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:85s6es8rkgaqn20...4ax.com... (...) as (...) "L3P -check" (...) And will it substitute for all the cone primitives? (please,please,please) -John Van (25 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Part numbers for newer parts
 
(...) The only generally available method of finding parts numbers is to look for the number embossed on the interior of the part. If the number for a part is unknown when a file for that part is submitted for inclusion in the official updates, (...) (25 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)  
 
  Part numbers for newer parts
 
I have called Lego for the answer to this and, of course, got no real answer. Does anyone have any idea how I can find out the Part numbers for specific parts? I know that Lugnet and others have online resources for most of the parts, but I can't (...) (25 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Checking for bowtie quads?
 
It's funny but two weeks ago, I developed exactly this method, the one with the cross products, and all the findings you got, too. (...) Isn't 3D math a wonderfull thing P.S. Maybe if I would have look at someone elses code or book, my life could (...) (25 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Time for BFC overhaul?
 
(...) And you like that don't you ? ;) If any one doesn't ! Don't read the rest of the mail ! (...) There we go again ! I saw this coming ! Why the hack do you assume things are stable as long as you agree with the supposed current status of them ? (...) (25 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)


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