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(...) Er, OK. I'll put that in, but it seems redundant. (...) It means that I stuffed in the pseudo-code without rewriting the syntax-specific sections. :( Steve (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Disagree. I remember trying it out Tyco in 1988 and it left a very bitter taste in my mouth -- blyecch -- and at the time I wasn't even a LEGO purist. True, Tyco was the best of the non-LEGO off-brands, but the quality still never quite lived (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Clone DATs--any interest?
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First of all, no one is trying to "pass" any clones as being the real thing. (...) Second, Tyco is NOT "crummy", it's just different. I don't use it but I think you're letting your emotions get in when you toss around "crummy". Tyco made blocks that (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) OK, here's an analogy... Hopefully this will illustrate the purist's point of view and why it's not arbitrary... You go into a restaurant and order big fat juicy third-pound burger with all the fixings, a side of french fries, and a big tall (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I haven't thought about this much and I can only speak for myself, but when I see water or skies or starry backgrounds, or fire or smoke or sand or anything like that, to me it's just "background stuff" to round out the image -- just as LEGO (...) (25 years ago, 27-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Dave, remember you're not the problem. You're just the person to bring up an issue that needs to be discussed and worked out for the future of LDraw and ldraw.org. Opinions welcome :) (...) Its good that you're agreeing about the official (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | New newsgroup for for MLCad
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A new group dedicated to MLCad has just been created. MLCad is a free program written by Michael Lachmann for modeling LEGO designs (or other construction systems). CHARTER/PURPOSE ===...=== lugnet.cad (group and hierarchy): Discussions of CAD (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| | Re: New newsgroup for for LeoCAD
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(...) Cool! :) Can MLCad have a group too? -Tim (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 If you don't believe in Gosh, you'll go to Heck, where you'll face eternal darnation. (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.leocad, lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Centering (was: I need help with the new tread links)
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(...) Thanks for your patient answer. Dave! (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | New newsgroup for for LeoCAD
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A new group dedicated to LeoCAD has just been created. LeoCAD is a free program written by Leonardo Zide for modeling LEGO designs (or other construction systems). CHARTER/PURPOSE ===...=== lugnet.cad (group and hierarchy): Discussions of CAD (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.leocad)
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| | Re: Linux Magazine Article
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(...) It's already in a very good stage, it can do all of the basic editing commands (only a few dialog boxes and the printing routines are missing). It's located at (URL) I'm *almost* sure I mentioned that here... :) Leonardo PS: Todd, could you (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Awesome!!! (And I didn't know there was a Linux version in development. Waycool, can't wait to try it out!) --Todd (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Centering (was: I need help with the new tread links)
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(...) Move all the pieces so that the center of rotation is at 0,0,0. For some tips on how to do this, read the advanced lessons at: (URL) Lambrecht / o o \ BramL@juno.com ---...---oooo-----(_...o---...--- WWW: (URL) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I've been trying to keep a low profile on this thread after having stirred the pot at the beginning, but now that I think of it, I have a few pseudo- philosophical questions. There've been myriad discussions of the merits and shortcomings of (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Personally, I wouldn't care one way or the other *intrinsically* if ldraw.org decided to host off-brand elements... What I (personally) would be very sad to see is LEGO stuff being *mixed* with off-brand stuff. That's what I meant by going the (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I hate to reply just to insert a "me too", but I whole-heartedly agree. And folks (I won't name names) second-guessing James' prejudices without actually having *met* him exhibits more than a fair amount of arrogance, IMHO. The way I (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Centering (was: I need help with the new tread links)
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*snip* (...) *snip* Thanks for the elucidation! One last question: how do you set the center of a piece permanently, as in a new DAT file? I notice, for example, that doors rotate on the anchoring studs, rather than on the center of "mass" of the (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Centering (was: I need help with the new tread links)
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(...) Yes to both questions. If you are unsure about the centre of the part you are currently working on, you can temporarily switch to a different part, move it around, set the centre, and LEdit will remember this 'till the next time you reset the (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Centering (was: I need help with the new tread links)
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(...) / T C sets the center of rotation to the position of the blinking cursor and leaves it there until you change the center of rotation again. When you start the program, the center is at 0,0,0 --Bram Bram Lambrecht / o o \ BramL@juno.com (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Centering (was: I need help with the new tread links)
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(...) That works fine for me, because for now I use LEdit almost exclusively. I'm a little familiar with the "/T C" function; does this set the "center" to the center of the piece? How about when using subassemblies while drafting larger (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) In LEdit you can set the rotation centre with the keystroke "/ T C". I don't know about other LEGO CAD packages, but I think they should follow the LEdit standard when it comes to keystrokes. Fredrik (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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That was a trick answer. I don't know how and I am hoping someone will say how. I think MLCad takes the center of the grouping bounding rectangle. It certainly doesn't seem to be based on the origin. I had a submodel that I made sure had its 0,0,0 (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Actually, you've mentioned off-handedly something that's been bugging me for a long time; how do you "set" the center of rotation? As with a lot of my questions, I'm afraid the answer might be embarrassingly simple, but I haven't been able to (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Well, I'd get one positioned correctly in good contact with the gear, and in the horizontal plane, then group the two items together, make sure the center of rotation is the center of the gear, and rotate by the proper number of degrees. (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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I am pretty purist myself and can't see using clones or modeling with them (except in trains if some clone comes along and delivers what most trainheads want at acceptable quality levels), but I repeat my thesis: Why be exclusionary? What's wrong (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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Hi, I've just received a message from a user about an article in the December issue of Linux Magazine (Volume 1 Number 8) on page 77. I don't have the magazine but he was kind enough to type the article for me: <article> Forget Tetris Show Me any (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Anybody working on spoked Adventurer's wheel?
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Now that the parts tracked doesn't seem to work, I'd like to ask if anybody are working on the spoked wheel, as seen in the Adventurers sets? I was thinking of giving it a try. Do anybody know the number for it? It doesn't seem to have a number (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Problems with Ldraw related sites
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Tim: (...) It certainly could be, but it would take some time due to my (slightly paranoid?) view of CGI programs - even those I write myself. I am not sure if the current version just needs some minor fixes or a complete rewrite based on lessons (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Question- Should the Parts Tracker be moved to ldraw.org? IMO it would be more accessible and easier to use there, and the site is a natural location for such a utility. Just a question/suggestion, not pushing anything. It would be nice for it (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.publish, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | ldraw.org Winter Goals
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Its time to make another thrust forward in the development of ldraw.org, and the winter season is the perfect time for it. So far, we've gotten the site up and its been a success. LDraw now has a permanent home and dedicated website to the cause. (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad, lugnet.org.us)
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(...) I read that page and I don't recall 'Lego' being mentioned once. But your interpretation is correct. (...) The 'Centralized LDraw Resources' is, but the meaning behind it is subject to change. (...) Ewww! Ewww! Ewww! Ewww! Ewww! You've proven (...) (25 years ago, 26-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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[ XFUT lugnet.cad.dev ] Manfred: (...) No. It hasn't disappeared, but it definitely appears that it needs to be fixed/improved/updated. (...) I think you misunderstood me (I was just trying not to walk on too many people's toes at the same time). (...) (25 years ago, 25-Nov-99, to lugnet.publish, lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Is the LDraw parts database free?
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(...) Jammes should be JAMES JESSIMAN major typo error :( (...) (25 years ago, 25-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Steve: (...) My comments/changes will be preceded by a "J". [...] Subfile. A DAT file referenced from another file, via a linetype 1 command. Or any file which is lower in the file-reference tree than the current file. J Or any file which is the (...) (25 years ago, 25-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) like I said Jammes wanted a standard : not a comercial product ! greetings martyn (25 years ago, 25-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Reading the (URL) page, I always thought it was just assumed (in the "commonly understood" sense) that the purpose of ldraw.org was to unify LDraw things that were specifically LEGO-related (i.e., not for non-LEGO stuff). But maybe that's just (...) (25 years ago, 25-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I agree. Happy Thanksgiving! -Tim (URL) timcourtne ICQ: 23951114 You know what you'll never see?? A fat Chinese man with flaming red hair running full speed while taking a crap. -Tom Ace (25 years ago, 25-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Sorry, I missed your post and now I'm replying to the reply. :) I was allowed to distribute the parts without the software only because I was distributing them in a *modified* format. James didn't want me to distribute the original .DAT files, (...) (25 years ago, 25-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) YES, I know that is why I posted it ! This conversation with Jammes was in the early beginning of his Ldraw(1995). I think Jammes wanted _his_ parts to be(come) a standard and because Leonardo Zide made a windows based programm he wanted to (...) (25 years ago, 25-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Line in the Sand
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Steve Bliss wrote: Still discussing (URL). I posted a new version, with the short-form syntax, to (URL) Comments? Steve (25 years ago, 25-Nov-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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