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    Voting page 9905 —Terry Keller
   Padewans, Voting for update 9905 commences: (URL) that 4 unapproved primitives are include for the cone 3x3x2 piece. (The 3x3x2 cone! Finally! I've been doing that Jedi mind-control hand movement in Steve's direction for *months* - guess it finally (...) (25 years ago, 26-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
   
        Re: Voting page 9905 —Steve Bliss
     (...) vote early and often. ;) (...) Note to Karim: the reason your name is on 1-4con10.dat is because I had thrown that file together on my system awhile ago, but then I got confused about which files you had posted, and I was trying to be sure you (...) (25 years ago, 26-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
   
        Re: Voting page 9905 —Jeff Stembel
     (...) movement (...) I've already found a problem: The "Baseplate 32 x 32 Service Station with Pattern" (309p01) should have the same color lines as the 9-stud roadways. Jeff (25 years ago, 26-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
    
         Re: Voting page 9905 —Jonathan Wilson
     there should be a black version of the forestmen torso. can someone please ensure that it appears in the update??? also the tyre 24 x 42 and wheel 24 x 43 should have technic dropped from the name (25 years ago, 28-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
   
        Re: Voting page 9905 —Terry Keller
     (...) Just a note for all: Karim just emailed me a corrected 30384.dat Windscreen 4 x 7 x 2 Round. The original piece submitted was the wrong version and had some line errors in it. I will make a quick substitution of the file in the 9905part.zip (...) (25 years ago, 27-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
   
        Re: Voting page 9905 —Chris Dee
     Comments on the voting 6222: Some optional lines on the cylinders on the underside appear to be missing. This is apparent when viewed from the underside. 2853: My version of this has just a rectangular slot where the axlehole breaks through the (...) (25 years ago, 29-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
    
         Re: Voting page 9905 —Fredrik Glöckner
      (...) Yes, there are two variants of this piece, one with a rectangular slot, and one with a circular. To me, the circular one seems to be more frequent, but it may just be here in Europe. I dunno. Fredrik (25 years ago, 30-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
     
          Re: Voting page 9905 (JOSHUA D. Read this) —Terry Keller
      (...) There are two types? That means both most likely use the same number. Which means that at some point, someone will make the other version. Which means that the current version should have an alpha designator appended *now* so we don't have to (...) (25 years ago, 30-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
     
          Re: Voting page 9905 (JOSHUA D. Read this) —Joshua Delahunty
      (...) My TECHNIC is currently packed away and inaccessible. I'll need the group's help for this. Here are the first couple years' use of this element. If you (anyone, anyone?) have one of these sets, and you're reasonably sure it's safely been kept (...) (25 years ago, 31-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
     
          Re: Voting page 9905 (JOSHUA D. Read this) —Terry Keller
      (...) I don't have _any_ of these older sets. :-/ But, in checking the samples of 2853 I have (20+ free/not in models), all but one have the rectangular slot. I *might* have surmised from that that the rectangular slot variant is likely the newer (...) (25 years ago, 31-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
     
          Re: Voting page 9905 (JOSHUA D. Read this) —Fredrik Glöckner
      (...) I'm not sure if I agree with that. Looking at the 8251, a 1999 set, it looks like it has a rectangular slot: (URL) then again, I haven't got the 8251, so it may very well be that the parts included have the circular hole. I dunno. Fredrik (25 years ago, 31-May-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
     
          Re: Voting page 9905 (JOSHUA D. Read this) —Terry Keller
       (...) But you can't actually see the hole in that picture. The hole is not opposite the axle end, it is offset. -- Terry K -- (25 years ago, 1-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
     
          Re: Voting page 9905 (JOSHUA D. Read this) —Joshua Delahunty
      (...) Fredrik Glöckner wrote: (...) Gar, guh, gah, guh.... D'oh! Did I _mention_ that conjecture wasn't allowed? I KNEW this'd happen... <sigh> <bg> ----- 1990: ---- 8850: I bought mine used [and was ripped off by the buyer on this one, thank you (...) (25 years ago, 1-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
     
          Re: Voting page 9905 (JOSHUA D. Read this) —Terry Keller
      (...) Made my day. :-> (...) Oh, the pain. (...) Thanks for the archeology, Joshua. So: Rectangle = 2853a T-shape = 2853b circle = 2853c -- Terry K -- (25 years ago, 2-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
    
         Re: Voting page 9905 —Steve Bliss
     (...) Do you mean along the line missing, in the UpsideDown view (-a-1,0,1,-0.5,-1,-0.5,1,0,0), from the half-cylinder at the center back, along the cylinder's left-hand (viewer's left) edge? You'd think after the recent discussion of 'missing/extra (...) (25 years ago, 1-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
    
         Re: Voting page 9905 —Chris Dee
     (...) Yup, they are the ones, on each half-cylinder - Chris (25 years ago, 4-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
   
        Re: Voting page 9905 —Jeremy H. Sproat
     (...) Some notes (viewing in LEDIT): 30082 - (MINOR) Why not center this one on the ball? 6222 - (MINOR) There are some extra lines on the bottom of this piece, reaching from a single side of the 4 cardinal half-cylinders to the outside edge of the (...) (25 years ago, 1-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
    
         Re: Voting page 9905 —Jeff Stembel
      (...) 4265 has a full cross-shaped axle hole. 4265b has the so-called "hourglass" axle hole, i.e. it is missing two opposing triangles. Hope this helps! Jeff (25 years ago, 1-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
    
         Re: Voting page 9905 —Steve Bliss
      (...) Hmm. Why not, indeed? (...) I'm not seeing these. Of course, it took me about 5 minutes to figure out how you were viewing this piece in LEdit, since the part-file has almost 1500 lines. Steve (25 years ago, 2-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
     
          Re: Voting page 9905 —Jeremy H. Sproat
       (...) :-S Oops. I can be more specific (but it's really a minor issue): I am viewing it in LEdit at 2x magnification, at the underside. Underneath, you see the center cylinder, with four sets of two half-cylinders forming a cross around it. The (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
     
          Re: Voting page 9905 —Terry Keller
      (...) If you want to do so, be my guest. Just send it in before it is officialized. -- Terry K -- (25 years ago, 3-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
    
         Re: Voting page 9905 —Fredrik Glöckner
     (...) The placement of this part was discussed here before submitting it. It is probably not at all clear how it should be centered, but this was chosen as a compromise. The current placement should make it easy to use in a piston engine, which (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
   
        Re: Voting page 9905 —Jeff Stembel
   (...) movement (...) I noticed something over the weekend about the maroon-collar Forestman torsoes. I was looking at the instructions for 6079 and the color of the collar is brown! This intrigued me, so I checked my minifigs, and the collar sure (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
   
        Re: Voting page 9905 —Tamyra Teed ("Mookie")
   6079 is the newer style forestmen.. these are the older original style, with more of a "gear" on their chest.. not the pointy "sprouts" on the Dark Forest figures. They are maroon.. among other colors as Terry and I have found out... I've got 3 (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
   
        Re: Voting page 9905 —Chris Dee
     Three colors, you say? A red version (not in my possession, but claimed to exist) and a black version (illustrated on Fibblesnork) are with Terry for a future vote. Do you have red too? With blue and maroon this makes four. Any others? Chris (...) (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
    
         Re: Voting page 9905 —Tamyra Teed ("Mookie")
     Basically what I've got are 3 different variants in one color, which I'm sure really isn't that uncommon... though there are 3 versions of the Fig. Blue, Maroon and Black. I've already talk to Terry about this, and I believe he's letting it go at (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
   
        Re: Voting page 9905 —Jeff Stembel
   (...) You mean the torsos in the vote are from the older forestman sets? I thought someone said that the maroon ones were from 6079. Oh well, nevermind then. :) I always thought they looked more red though... Jeff (...) torsoes. (...) looked (...) (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 

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