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(...) I should probably find then for what is LDraw library aimed at. If it's something like as perfect as possible renders or some quick mockup prototyping. (...) Wouldn't it be possible to be the parts as accurate as possible and then (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Well I'm kind of of pissed. ** begin rant ** Curious to find an acceptible substitute for Java, I was looking into cross platform GUI toolkits. GTK+ came to mind but alas no Mac support for the latest version. Then I thought of Qt. I visited the Qt (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | Re: Parts editing made easy, anyone?
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(...) Well, rendering time gets affected too, right? It's harder to build a model if it takes MLCad 20 seconds to redraw once... Oh, you mean for the rendering in POV when doing the animation? Well, file loading time, memory consumption, etc. etc. (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: l3p as open source
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(...) A nice thing about open source would be that it would be possible for other people to work on ports to different architectures other than the microsoft-based platform. While emulators may exist to allow people to get by for the time being, (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) If for nothing else, to permit them to be used as the basis for the manual creation of similar parts, and abstraction into resuable sub-components. Not a strong reason, but worth considering. (...) To use just one example - the STUD primitive (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Yes, since it is text based. Also, a most new authors learn by examining the code. (...) Unneccessary memory usage and file size. (...) L3P (and other converters/viewers) detect these primitives and convert them to smooth objects (e.g. L3P (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: l3p as open source (was: Re: Anatomy of a POV file (e.g. L3P suggestions))
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(...) Why don't you create your main scene file that never changes and then just include the l3p output file into your scene file. I believe Lars is working on options that leave out the povray code that is required to be in the main file (like (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Why? Is the .DAT file supposed to be readable by humans? Why? ;) What's wrong with the larger number of polygons? What positives (from the side of the automated rendering process) does bring the existence of primitives? What's wrong with the (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: l3p as open source (was: Re: Anatomy of a POV file (e.g. L3P suggestions))
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(...) Hi Kevin Thanks for your tip, but even though it seems to solve the amb/dif/reflection-problem, it unfortunately doesn't cover the need for special pov-ray objects like special lights, fog etc, as it's also based on L3p. Another thing I just (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.cad.dev, FTX)
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| | Re: l3p as open source (was: Re: Anatomy of a POV file (e.g. L3P suggestions))
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(...) An alternative to open source is to post process l3p output to change things the way you want. This is what I do in LPub. L3P output is simple text and extremely consistant, making it easy to modfiy the contents. Kevin (20 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | l3p as open source (was: Re: Anatomy of a POV file (e.g. L3P suggestions))
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I don't know if this is besides the topic, but what I would really like was the ability to edit the "text" with the default settings l3p uses to create the pov-file (after all, it's a program that converts a textfile into another textfile). When (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: BigBen Bricks! (Was: Parts editing made easy...?)
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(...) Tore, those are parts made on Stratasys and zCorp Rapid Prototyping machines. Rapid Prototyping is a way of using machines to take digital data and create models in an additive fashion, built up layer by layer. zCorp machines build the layers (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.cad.dev, FTX)
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(...) Sorry Tore, I thought you read the article. Here's a brief summary: Mike Pique of Scripps Research Institute, Molecular Biology Department, did some LEGO bricks in the rapid prototype machines in his department. He plans on using them to teach (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) My eyes see the most beautiful things, but yet they don't understand. I looked for some text that explained who/where/how this lovely sight is made possible. Please let me have some more information! /Tore (20 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: BigBen Bricks! (Was: Parts editing made easy...?)
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(...) Ahem... (URL) (20 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) If you look up my posts on LUGNET, you'll find that's all I've really ever talked about here. (Damn, I'm boring. Well, OK, I also talk about trucks) You've touched on the critical issues I've found over the years: - LDR/DAT files created by (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Like, wow! Triple wow! Fisrt LCAD, and now LCAM! I wonder how expesive that could be! And I wonder if they are willing to make some custom size Classic style windows and not only train wheels! And I wish that LEGO would offer the same service, (...) (20 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Hi Stefan, yes I believe there would be interest in such a utility. And yes, I believe most people still used text-based programs to edit parts. There are tools that make it a bit easier, like LDDesignPad, but it's still basically just a text (...) (20 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Are parts authors really using text editors to compose new parts? I find it hard to understand that a text editor is still the tool of choice for this relatively complicated modeling task. I might be wrong and could need an update on what tools (...) (20 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Anatomy of a POV file (e.g. L3P suggestions)
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(...) When you really get into POV-Ray, you have to deal with multiple files. If you ever include a graphic as a texture, or a height field, there is nothing you can do. You can't combine an image into a text file and have it work well. If you have (...) (20 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Anatomy of a POV file (e.g. L3P suggestions)
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(...) Hi Lars, I'd prefer that the format is unchanged. Right now LPub post-proceses the one file, greying parts as needed, adjusting camera settings for orthographic, and creating new colors for the greyed pieces.... I'd really rather *not* have to (...) (20 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I am anything but an expert on this area, but will not the parts, 3001_dot_dat and so on, also be defined multiple times? (20 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) For newbies I think it's nice that the POV file is self-contained and ready-to-render. However, using certain coming options you can exclude camera and lights. Why would you like submodels in separate .inc files ? Only to have a smaller (...) (20 years ago, 21-Jan-05, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Optional, yes that would be nice. But I also see the strength in the fact that all data needed are gathered in the same file. I have downloaded so many pov-files just to discover that they have references to inc files I fail to find on the (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jan-05, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Here are the basic components of a POV file, as it is generated by default by L3P. Materials Color declarations Stud-tops Finishes Render-Detail Options Qual SW Bumps etc. Scene-Level Objects Camera Lights Floor Background Parts & Primitives Models (...) (20 years ago, 20-Jan-05, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) If you go into BrickLink's "Search", then "Find Stores", you can upload an XML file of all the parts you want, and it will find the stores which have all (or most) of those parts. There's a help file on how to build the XML file (URL) here>. (...) (20 years ago, 19-Jan-05, to lugnet.inv, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.mlcad, lugnet.market.brickshops, FTX)
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(...) Yes. the sheer number of combinations can quickly get ridiculous and it gets hard to evaluate which is "best." I cheated by making a few asumptions. I'll share them when I dig up the code, I don't remember the details off hand. -JSM (20 years ago, 19-Jan-05, to lugnet.inv, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.mlcad, lugnet.market.brickshops)
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(...) SNIP (...) Yeah I had to have a look up table for that. It was annoying but not insurmountable : ) (20 years ago, 19-Jan-05, to lugnet.inv, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.market.brickshops)
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| | Re: Restart of LDA2001 Project (using LDraw models - L3P - POV)
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(...) The coming L3P has also these new options: -ic[<file>] no camera, optional include file -il[<file>] no lights, optional include file So, l3p -ic -il model.ldr model.inc might just do what you want, assuming you still want color and primitive (...) (20 years ago, 18-Jan-05, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.animation, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) The problem with this (and with Briktrak) is that there are a few Bricklink parts whose numbers are not the same as the LDraw parts. There was an attempt a while back to normalize the numbering system across the main part cataloging sites but (...) (20 years ago, 17-Jan-05, to lugnet.inv, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.mlcad, lugnet.market.brickshops)
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(...) Yeah, it'd be very cool if L3P had an option to generate include files instead of full scenes. That way, people could run all their various model files through L3P to generate the definitions in include files. Then they could use all those (...) (20 years ago, 17-Jan-05, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.animation, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I beleive that this is the hardest part of the automated 'from-CAD-to-shop' process. There are so many variables, obviously element avaialability but also price and geographical location. Also when using the By Shop sorting feature in (...) (20 years ago, 17-Jan-05, to lugnet.inv, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.mlcad, lugnet.market.brickshops)
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There is of course the option on Bricklink of uploading an XML file into your wanted list. If you could make a program that reformats an MLCad parts list into the required XML format you would be halfway there. I have tested this function with a (...) (20 years ago, 17-Jan-05, to lugnet.inv, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.mlcad, lugnet.market.brickshops)
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| | Re: Restart of LDA Project (using LDraw models - L3P - POV)
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(...) I think I mean... I don't remember! (...) Maybe, but that's not really the problem to me. (...) output files) is having to hunt down all the include files! (...) I'd say let's start with camera.dat and lookat.dat. If we make them with lines (...) (20 years ago, 17-Jan-05, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.animation, lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Restart of LDA Project (using LDraw models - L3P - POV)
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(...) I had no idea that L3Lab had POV output, in spite the fact that I've been using it daily for years! Hmm, very intersting. The alternative approach that comes to my mind is: * LDA creates a static MPD file and runs it through L3P. * The output (...) (20 years ago, 17-Jan-05, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.animation, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I'd agree with this. But what I do with an L3Lab output (which is how I generate my static images in POV from LDraw files) is immediately strip the camera and viewpoint stuff out and make it into an .inc file, my main file just includes what (...) (20 years ago, 16-Jan-05, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.animation, lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Restart of LDA Project (using LDraw models - L3P - POV)
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(...) You mean LD4D and you or POV-Ray and you? (...) You really need to look at how POV-Ray does animation. It has all of this built in. I think one reason why animation is so hard is because L3P's output is overwhelming. It is not good for newbies (...) (20 years ago, 16-Jan-05, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.animation, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Yes, that's why I also make this little humble program to see if my ideas work put to practice. (...) ... and that program crasches on all of my PC:s, expect the very first beta version he released... :(( (...) Maybe, maybe not. I recall James (...) (20 years ago, 15-Jan-05, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.animation, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I have no idea. Anton always include the ini with the pov file, so perhaps whatever tools come from this can just auto create the ini file as well. (...) Hey! Cool! I know the syntax alone wont be much good. If there aren't tools that use it, (...) (20 years ago, 15-Jan-05, to lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.animation, lugnet.cad.dev)
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---snip--- There are two soultions that I know of. 1) Create a .LDR file with the parts you want to buy 2) Download and install (URL) 3) Upload your .LDR file to briktrak and it will link to bricklink and provide you a list of stores that have your (...) (20 years ago, 15-Jan-05, to lugnet.inv, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.mlcad, lugnet.market.brickshops)
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