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    Re: Which CAD program recommended for Mac?? —John Neal
   (...) Hey, Tommy- That would depend-- if he has a new Mac with the Intel chip, I'd say to go with MLCAD running Bootcamp. Otherwise, the choice would have to be Bricksmith. JOHN (17 years ago, 1-Feb-08, to lugnet.cad, FTX)
   
        Re: Which CAD program recommended for Mac?? —Jim DeVona
     (...) I would recommend (URL) Bricksmith> in either case. Jim (17 years ago, 1-Feb-08, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.mac, FTX)  
    
         Re: Which CAD program recommended for Mac?? —Jean-Marc Nimal
      (...) I second that. I'm quite novice at virtual building, but Bricksmith has proven very straightforward to use (it's event better with two screens, too), and very convivial. MLcad is good to, of course, but I don't see why you'd go through all the (...) (17 years ago, 2-Feb-08, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.mac, FTX)
    
         Re: Which CAD program recommended for Mac?? —Orion Pobursky
     (...) I'm going to have to disagree. As a long time MLCad user and a recent Mac convert (Nov 2007), I feel that while Bricksmith is a very good program, it has some very definite drawbacks that makes it difficult to use. Here's a list from off the (...) (17 years ago, 3-Feb-08, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.mac)
    
         Re: Which CAD program recommended for Mac?? —Jim DeVona
      (...) Bricksmith is certainly unlike MLCad, which is indeed a fine program. However, I'd like to humbly correct a few inaccuracies I perceive in your list of drawbacks. (...) True. That is a definite difference. (...) False. Keyboard controls for (...) (17 years ago, 4-Feb-08, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.mac)  
     
          Re: Which CAD program recommended for Mac?? —Orion Pobursky
      (...) Yes, this is very annoying as using the arrow keys to move a part/assembly all the way across the model can be slow and painful, especially since Bricksmith doesn't seem to display cursor coordinates. (...) Ok, I see. I'd like functionality to (...) (17 years ago, 4-Feb-08, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.mac)
     
          Re: Which CAD program recommended for Mac?? —Jim DeVona
       (...) Moving things manually a long distance is cumbersome, even with the coarse grid. The inspector does show the coordinates of the selected part or submodel, although I'm not sure if that's what you mean by cursor coordinates. Note that if you do (...) (17 years ago, 5-Feb-08, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.mac)  
     
          Re: Which CAD program recommended for Mac?? —Allen Smith
      (...) Sigh...Nobody ever reads the Read Me. Though those tidbits are indeed documented, I admit documentation is not my strong suit. I generally hope that users will explore menu items and find them to be fairly self-explanatory. (...) I'm curious (...) (17 years ago, 5-Feb-08, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.mac, FTX)
     
          Re: Which CAD program recommended for Mac?? —Travis Cobbs
       (...) I'd suggest moving the Readme into the app wrapper and adding an item to the help menu that uses [[NSWorkspace sharedWorkspace] openFile:] to show it. I installed Bricksmith a long time ago, and had completely forgotten that it came with a (...) (17 years ago, 13-Feb-08, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.mac, FTX)
     
          Re: Which CAD program recommended for Mac?? —Orion Pobursky
      (...) As Travis remarked, many people install a program and then forget about the Read Me, myself included. (...) None what so ever. I often install open source (and even some commercial) programs that have less documentation than yours. (...) No, (...) (17 years ago, 15-Feb-08, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.mac)
     
          Re: Which CAD program recommended for Mac?? —Allen Smith
      (...) You got me so curious I found a Windows machine and investigated PowerPoint 2003. At the least it is widely known; tragically, it's even probably the #1 drawing program on Windows. Both shift and control are used to select multiple (...) (17 years ago, 23-Feb-08, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.mac, FTX)
     
          Re: Which CAD program recommended for Mac?? —Ross Crawford
       (...) LOL you're basing your Windoze "standards" off a Micro$oft program???? And here I thought you were bright. Interesting that PP2003 doesn't behave like PP2000 LOL. Anyway, the "standard" behaviour for mutiple selection is - shift-click usually (...) (17 years ago, 23-Feb-08, to lugnet.cad.dev.mac, FTX)
      
           Re: Which CAD program recommended for Mac?? —Tommy Armstrong
       (...) lol--listening to "Wait, Wait, Don't Tell"-- (URL) of the very funniest shows anywhere-- and lo and behold they reported a survey of 7500 mac an pc users and concluded that mac users were arrogant, felt superior in every way, and were much (...) (17 years ago, 24-Feb-08, to lugnet.cad.dev.mac, FTX)
      
           Re: Which CAD program recommended for Mac?? —Allen Smith
       (...) Oh, it's widely recognized that a disproportionate number of Mac users are insufferably smug and prone to making grating, snarky remarks. What seems far less understood is that most Mac zealots are really very nice people who try not to annoy (...) (17 years ago, 26-Feb-08, to lugnet.cad.dev.mac, FTX)
     
          Re: Which CAD program recommended for Mac?? —Travis Cobbs
      (...) Actually, I just checked, and you can in Cocoa. Just uncheck all the modifiers in IB, and the menu will just show the letter (capitalized). Check the Shift modifier, and the menu will show that along with the letter. Furthermore, the keys (...) (17 years ago, 26-Feb-08, to lugnet.cad.dev.mac, FTX)
     
          Re: Which CAD program recommended for Mac?? —Allen Smith
      (...) The problem isn't displaying un-modified keys, the problem is having those menu items work reliably. Un-modified menu items are very far back in the responder chain; if there is a responder before them, the system will never even attempt to (...) (17 years ago, 7-Mar-08, to lugnet.cad.dev.mac, FTX)
    
         Re: Which CAD program recommended for Mac?? —Allen Smith
     (...) Congratulations, Orion. That's nice to hear. (...) Thanks for at least trying it out. It is unfortunate you were unsatisfied, and you raise several valid points below. But you also lament about the "absence" of several features which are (...) (17 years ago, 5-Feb-08, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.mac, FTX)
   
        Re: Which CAD program recommended for Mac?? —Allen Smith
     (...) Ouch. Why is that? Bricksmith and MLCad are definitely different. Bricksmith offers a Mac-friendly interface designed by a lifelong Mac user. It makes organizing a model into submodels and steps completely seamless. It offers an editor with (...) (17 years ago, 5-Feb-08, to lugnet.cad, FTX)
   
        Re: Which CAD program recommended for Mac?? —Kevin L. Clague
   (...) Sigh. My preference would be to have one problem on both environments. Unfortunatly MLCad will not be going open source. It almost happened. I asked Allan Smith about having bricksmith ported to the PC, but he's not even slightly interested. I (...) (17 years ago, 23-Feb-08, to lugnet.cad)
   
        Re: Which CAD program recommended for Mac?? —Kevin L. Clague
     In lugnet.cad, Kevin L. Clague wrote: <snip> (...) Oops -> program Kevin (17 years ago, 23-Feb-08, to lugnet.cad)
   
        Re: Which CAD program recommended for Mac?? —Travis Cobbs
   (...) Well, I wouldn't really call myself a Mac expert OR a QT expert, but I'm at least familiar with both. I did the initial port of LDView to QT years ago, but that's now maintained by Peter Bartfai. However, I do get into the QT code enough to (...) (17 years ago, 24-Feb-08, to lugnet.cad)
   
        Re: Which CAD program recommended for Mac?? —Kevin L. Clague
   (...) <snip> (...) Hi Travis, Very nice to hear about your experiences. I need many layers of Mac experience. The first and foremost (until I get myself a Mac and get ramped up in the development environment) is being able to build LPub for the Mac. (...) (17 years ago, 25-Feb-08, to lugnet.cad)
   
        Re: Which CAD program recommended for Mac?? —Orion Pobursky
     (...) I think my problem is a compiler/Qt/lack of knowledge issue and not a Mac issue since I'm getting the same error regardless of whether I'm building on OSX or Windows. -Orion P.S. Send me some fresh code and I'll try to sort it out. (17 years ago, 26-Feb-08, to lugnet.cad)
   
        Re: Which CAD program recommended for Mac?? —Travis Cobbs
   (...) That's probably doable (at least mostly). However, it would likely involve not using certain Mac features (like drawers). The other thing is that Mac apps often use something called an Inspector. This is like a properties dialog, except that (...) (17 years ago, 26-Feb-08, to lugnet.cad)
   
        Re: Which CAD program recommended for Mac?? —Kevin L. Clague
   <snip> (...) The code is on its way! Thanks! (...) Kevin (17 years ago, 26-Feb-08, to lugnet.cad)
 

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