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  Box Art for 2003 LEGO Train Products!
 
Hello again LEGO® train fans! The ILTCO is pleased to announce some exciting news, as part of our growing partnership with The LEGO Company. LEGO has supplied the ILTCO with box art for the new 2003 LEGO Train sets. (set numbers 4511 through 4514) (...) (21 years ago, 28-Mar-03, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.trains.org, lugnet.trains) !! 
 
  Re: Box Art for 2003 LEGO Train Products!
 
(...) Hi, Nice pictures but there's something i notice on the two new train sets : Both will be equiped with a speed regulator,(another speed regulator i pay for to end up on the shellf) and the 4511 seems to be only a circle track [no straigts]. (...) (21 years ago, 28-Mar-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Box Art for 2003 LEGO Train Products!
 
(...) How about an alternative available through Shop-At-Home that doesn't include the power supply and regulator? Or track even? 4511 looks good, though I think I might pass. Nice to see a Lego figure boarding a train with a valid ticket for once (...) (21 years ago, 28-Mar-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Box Art for 2003 LEGO Train Products!
 
(...) You're welcome but this was an effort of the entire ILTCO Organizing Committee, (notice how it was signed), not just me. I'm just the mouthpiece. (...) This has been suggested already and is under review. (...) I don't think we have permission (...) (21 years ago, 28-Mar-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Box Art for 2003 LEGO Train Products!
 
(...) Question on the #4514 ((URL) does the drawing at the bottom-left show the minifig with the red kerchief and blue hat, when he's not included in the set? Is he there because he's in one of the other sets? To me, that little drawing looks like (...) (21 years ago, 28-Mar-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Box Art for 2003 LEGO Train Products!
 
(...) You snipped an important disclaimer. I'll repeat it for your convenience: "- These images are preliminary and are subject to change" But more importantly, your substantive questions about the images would have to be directed to LEGO... ILTCO (...) (21 years ago, 28-Mar-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Box Art for 2003 LEGO Train Products!
 
(...) Did I ask *you* the question??? Cripes, I didn't mean to intrude on the precious holy turf of the ILTCO... Thank you for looking down your nose at me and treating me like <??> for asking a simple question. JohnG, GMLTC and, I just dropped my (...) (21 years ago, 28-Mar-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Box Art for 2003 LEGO Train Products!
 
(...) That's Engineer Max! Haven't you been to (URL) in the last year? I presume him at the controls of a train is the new symbol for Lego trains (at least at the time these boxes were drawn up), since the same motif appears on all the boxes. All, (...) (21 years ago, 28-Mar-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Box Art for 2003 LEGO Train Products!
 
(...) Uhm, maybe just once or twice... <grin> (or about 50 times!!) (...) I *really* like the Max figure. The overalls he's wearing are such a great simple little torso design, and the dark grey 'glove' hands are a perfect touch. I had to open a (...) (21 years ago, 28-Mar-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Box Art for 2003 LEGO Train Products!
 
"John Gerlach" <gmltc_j1@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote in message news:HCGrCL.1D1w@lugnet.com... [ ... snipped ... ] (...) the (...) There are two versions of 4513 and 4514 because we have the art for both the international and US versions of the boxes (...) (21 years ago, 28-Mar-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Box Art for 2003 LEGO Train Products!
 
"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:HCGop3.12v3@lugnet.com... [ ... snipped ... ] (...) we'll (...) [ .. snipped ... ] This is a true statement - we do not have permission to modify the pictures. We were specifically (...) (21 years ago, 28-Mar-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Box Art for 2003 LEGO Train Products!
 
(...) My apologies... the tail end of the post did seem to be asking questions of the Organizing Committee, yes, so forgive me if I thought you were asking me about that too. Sorry if I misinterpreted it. ++Lar (21 years ago, 28-Mar-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Box Art for 2003 LEGO Train Products!
 
(...) D'oh! I didn't even notice that! Too busy trying to figure out which elements are new and which ones will be useful... Like there was ever any doubt that I'll get at least one copy of every train set Lego comes out with. :-) JohnG, GMLTC (21 years ago, 28-Mar-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Q? 4512 Buffer (was: Re: Box Art for 2003 LEGO Train Products!)
 
(...) Oh, man! Thanks! I hadn't realized this. Now I have a question for everyone. Sorry if I've missed this in another message thread... What is the black piece beneath the buffer on the front of the 4512 freight locomotive? Is that a new element (...) (21 years ago, 28-Mar-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Q? 4512 Buffer (was: Re: Box Art for 2003 LEGO Train Products!)
 
(...) most 'North American' locomotives... If that's what it turns out to be, I consider that a good sign that Lego is starting to recognize the fact that not all trains look like European models. (Can we get the 8-wide version? <grin>) And for some (...) (21 years ago, 28-Mar-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Q? 4512 Buffer (was: Re: Box Art for 2003 LEGO Train Products!)
 
I wonder if there are two scoops in every box? ;) If not, we'll all be buying two sets! SteveB PS And where's the rasins for the red hopper! (...) (21 years ago, 28-Mar-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Box Art for 2003 LEGO Train Products!
 
(...) I think this is overreacting. Larry's just as entitled to respond from his perspective as is anyone else. And yeah, it might grate when he gets more info than the rest of us, but if it wasn't for ILTCO we wouldn't have these pictures at all! (...) (21 years ago, 28-Mar-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Q? 4512 Buffer (was: Re: Box Art for 2003 LEGO Train Products!)
 
(...) Ya, me too. They do that a lot, don't they, label the obvious? Wouldn't want any minifig passengers thinking these containers are deluxe accomodations by mistake... (21 years ago, 28-Mar-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Q? 4512 Buffer (was: Re: Box Art for 2003 LEGO Train Products!)
 
(...) Another interesting one I noticed. Apparently in LEGOworld people are really tall. Notice the 11 1/3 M clearance label on the crane? I'm pretty sure the clearance is 11 bricks and one plate... So therefore, 1 brick height equals 1 M. Or maybe (...) (21 years ago, 29-Mar-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Q? 4512 Buffer (was: Re: Box Art for 2003 LEGO Train Products!)
 
Wow, I think your right! And I think their at both ends of the loco? The buffers do look square, look at the same image, way down at the bottom... the image of the roof popping off the loco, I think it has square buffers! It looks to be a new train (...) (21 years ago, 29-Mar-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Q? 4512 Buffer (was: Re: Box Art for 2003 LEGO Train Products!)
 
(...) Me either. My other concern with the click hinges is that they wear out. There is abrading that happens every time you move them. While this is true for any part that has moving surfaces in contact, it's especially bad with these. Some of my (...) (21 years ago, 29-Mar-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Q? 4512 Buffer (was: Re: Box Art for 2003 LEGO Train Products!)
 
FBTB has another shot of the engine from the NY Toy Fair, and you can see the plow piece if you look very carefully: (...) (21 years ago, 29-Mar-03, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Q: 4512 and 4511 (was: Re: Box Art for 2003 LEGO Train Products!)
 
Something that I just noticed is that the 4512 locomotive truly looks like it resembles set 4564's engine. Is this the same engine only different colors and a different removable top? And, 4511 has some strange lights on the front of the engine. The (...) (21 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.trains)

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