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    2nd Annual Space Building Contest —Jude Beaudin
   Two words BLACKTRON I That is right, we are going to have a Blacktron I building contest starting December 1st. (This will give us time to finalize the logistics while you start planning your MOCs :-) The categories are: Regular Categories -- 1. (...) (23 years ago, 15-Nov-01, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.space, lugnet.build.contests, lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.general) ! 
   
        Re: 2nd Annual Space Building Contest —Tony Hafner
     (...) Eek! I want to make sure that I can reasonably claim to be eligible... can we make it clear that the Scrutinizer[1] is the final arbiter? And you mentioned that the contest starts on Dec. 1st. Let's say that the people in the above list who (...) (23 years ago, 15-Nov-01, to lugnet.build.contests)
    
         Re: 2nd Annual Space Building Contest —Kyle Keppler
      In lugnet.build.contests, Tony Hafner writes: <snippage!> (...) Nooooo! Next year is Futuron. Please let it be Futuron :-D. But now I need to come up with a BT idea.. --Kyle (URL) (23 years ago, 15-Nov-01, to lugnet.build.contests)
     
          Re: 2nd Annual Space Building Contest —Tony Hafner
      (...) Either way is fine with me- I'll enter both! And you're right- Futuron is 2 years ahead of Space Police, according to the Fibblesnork guide: (URL) Hafner www.hafhead.com (23 years ago, 15-Nov-01, to lugnet.build.contests)
     
          Re: 2nd Annual Space Building Contest —Jude Beaudin
      (...) Let's get through this year's before we decide next year will be Ice Planet 2002, OK? The Scutinizer (23 years ago, 15-Nov-01, to lugnet.build.contests)
    
         Re: 2nd Annual Space Building Contest —Jude Beaudin
      (...) Fine, but I want your opinions. (...) I'll ask around... (...) You want to name a ship after me?!? (...) Jude aka the Scrutinizer (23 years ago, 15-Nov-01, to lugnet.build.contests)
    
         Re: 2nd Annual Space Building Contest —John P. Henderson
     (...) I'd say Scrutinizer is *definitely* in line with the names of official BT1 sets. I only wish I had gotten to it first.... <smirk> -H. (23 years ago, 15-Nov-01, to lugnet.build.contests)
   
        Re: 2nd Annual Space Building Contest —Leigh Holcombe
     Sadly enough, I don't own any Blacktron 1 minifigs. Will that bar me from entering this contest? Will I have to sell my soul to Ebay to get some minifigs? Or can I just use some "other" black minifigs? (...) (23 years ago, 15-Nov-01, to lugnet.build.contests)
    
         Re: 2nd Annual Space Building Contest —Jude Beaudin
     (...) I do not see why not. I would hate to see someone not participate just because of that. The more important thing is the MOC not the minifig. If anyone has a differing opinion please let me know. Jude (...) (23 years ago, 15-Nov-01, to lugnet.build.contests)
    
         Re: 2nd Annual Space Building Contest —William R. Ward
     (...) I don't have any Blacktron *anything*, I or II. Both of those were solidly in Dark Ages for me. I do have lots of black and yellow pieces though, including trans-yellow from the Classic Space sets. Do we need to use special pieces such as (...) (23 years ago, 20-Nov-01, to lugnet.build.contests)
    
         Re: 2nd Annual Space Building Contest —Tom Sciortino
     I can't speak for others, but it wouldn't really bother me much if there weren't any obvious (ie, with the triangular blacktron insignia) pieces in the model. It's more a style thing with me. ~ Tom William R Ward <bill@wards.net> wrote in message (...) (23 years ago, 20-Nov-01, to lugnet.build.contests)
    
         Re: 2nd Annual Space Building Contest —Jude Beaudin
     I agree. Jude (...) (23 years ago, 20-Nov-01, to lugnet.build.contests)
   
        what defines a MOC as blacktron? was: (2nd Annual Space Building Contest) —Jonathan Wilson
     This is an important question and needs to be answered by the organizers of the contest. (23 years ago, 15-Nov-01, to lugnet.build.contests)
    
         Re: what defines a MOC as blacktron? was: (2nd Annual Space Building Contest) —Lindsay Frederick Braun
     (...) Unless "Blacktron I-ness" is part of the contest's judging criteria. I'd bet that it is, much like the "Classic Space" contest judged "Classic Space"ness. best LFB (23 years ago, 15-Nov-01, to lugnet.build.contests)
    
         Re: what defines a MOC as blacktron? was: (2nd Annual Space Building Contest) —Jude Beaudin
      (...) Since the competitors are the judges, I would say it is up to them. This contest is a BT1 contest so I hope most entries try to stay true to BT1 design. Although this is harder to judge with only 6 official models to use as a guide. In the end (...) (23 years ago, 15-Nov-01, to lugnet.build.contests)
     
          Re: what defines a MOC as blacktron? was: (2nd Annual Space Building Contest) —Tony Hafner
      (...) Well, in my opinion... which is what I'll be going by with my votes, I'd define Blacktron-ism by: - The color scheme is black with yellow glass. Detailing is done with yellow and with trans-red. - The figs are all black with the signature (...) (23 years ago, 15-Nov-01, to lugnet.build.contests)
    
         Re: what defines a MOC as blacktron? was: (2nd Annual Space Building Contest) —Jason Whittenburg
     Some suggestions for "Blacktron-ness": - Color, you got to have Black and Yellow with a little trans-red! :-) - Style! Blacktron I is all about style! - Remember the story positioning; the Blacktron are spies, pirates and theives that are out to (...) (23 years ago, 15-Nov-01, to lugnet.build.contests)
    
         Re: what defines a MOC as blacktron? was: (2nd Annual Space Building Contest) —John P. Henderson
      (...) highlights, trans-yellow windows, some small trans red highlights are okay. They definitly must have some style. When the sets first came out, everyone said, "Now that is cool!" Most BT1 designs look sleek, even the black visors add to the (...) (23 years ago, 15-Nov-01, to lugnet.build.contests)
    
         Re: what defines a MOC as blacktron? was: (2nd Annual Space Building Contest) —Richard Marchetti
     (...) And trans-yellow. (...) No argument there. (...) This part is speculative. It is true that that the Space Police seem to have occasionally captured a Blacktron, but who can say what that may mean? The precise nature of the relationship between (...) (23 years ago, 15-Nov-01, to lugnet.build.contests)
    
         Re: what defines a MOC as blacktron? was: (2nd Annual Space Building Contest) —John P. Henderson
       (Hope no one minds, I moved this to .space) Sorry, I can't resist... My first-thing-in-mind answers (hee-hee!) (see below for the serious ones): In lugnet.build.contests, Richard Marchetti writes (re: BT1): (...) The SP1s think the BT1s are (...) (23 years ago, 15-Nov-01, to lugnet.space)
     
          Re: what defines a MOC as blacktron? was: (2nd Annual Space Building Contest) —John P. Henderson
       I said I'd post it... My slightly more serious response, **based on how my BT1 sets fit into my LEGO fantasy world**: (...) The BT1 are the space force formed by Vathan Boldt of Darknia. He used them to assault the Billundian lunar colonies (...) (23 years ago, 15-Nov-01, to lugnet.space)
    
         Re: what defines a MOC as blacktron? was: (2nd Annual Space Building Contest) —Richard Marchetti
      (...) Do these Female Blacktronettes look anything like this: (URL) Hop-Frog (23 years ago, 16-Nov-01, to lugnet.fun)
     
          Re: what defines a MOC as blacktron? was: (2nd Annual Space Building Contest) —Tony Hafner
       (...) -- Tony Hafner www.hafhead.com (23 years ago, 16-Nov-01, to lugnet.fun)
     
          Re: what defines a MOC as blacktron? was: (2nd Annual Space Building Contest) —John P. Henderson
      (...) Ahhh! My eyes!!! Now I have to flee through space as a cosmic refugee! It is rumoured that all who set eyes on the secretive Blacktron Queens are hunted down, captured, and returned to the hidden Lost Moons for a lifetime of tortuous slavery! (...) (23 years ago, 16-Nov-01, to lugnet.fun, lugnet.space)
    
         Re: what defines a MOC as blacktron? was: (2nd Annual Space Building Contest) —Jason Whittenburg
      (...) Actually, a story like that (pretty close) was in the US and Canada LEGO catalog around 1988. Additionally if someone in the Atlanta area needs to use a BT1 minifig, I can loan you one for picture taking purposes. -Jason (23 years ago, 16-Nov-01, to lugnet.build.contests)
     
          Re: what defines a MOC as blacktron? was: (2nd Annual Space Building Contest) —Richard Marchetti
      (...) Duuuuude! Don't be like that, give us a reference! I have several of each of the BT1 sets, and lot's of promotional materials from the same BT1 sets MISB (all opened now), and I have NEVER seen this suggested storyline. I am all ears, baby! (...) (23 years ago, 16-Nov-01, to lugnet.build.contests)
     
          Re: what defines a MOC as blacktron? was: (2nd Annual Space Building Contest) —Jason Whittenburg
      (...) *sigh* My bad <-- See I can fess up! I looked it up, it was a BT2 thing in the 1991 US/CA catalog. So not a BT1 story, per se. -Jason (23 years ago, 19-Nov-01, to lugnet.build.contests)
     
          Re: what defines a MOC as blacktron? was: (2nd Annual Space Building Contest) —Richard Marchetti
      (...) Amazing! I had never noticed this part before -- my eyes only scan for elements when I look at these catalogues, and I have this very catalogue myself (probably in storage). (URL) reads: "Who's Who in Lego Space? M:Trons have the galaxy's best (...) (23 years ago, 19-Nov-01, to lugnet.build.contests)
    
         Re: what defines a MOC as blacktron? was: (2nd Annual Space Building Contest) —John P. Henderson
     (...) < How many times can I return to answer the same question? > In thinking about this a bit more, I think the attraction to BT1 comes down to the color scheme above all else. Look at it: Black with Yellow highlights. The standard "LEGO" colors (...) (23 years ago, 16-Nov-01, to lugnet.build.contests, lugnet.space)
    
         Re: what defines a MOC as blacktron? was: (2nd Annual Space Building Contest) —Tom Sciortino
     I would be interested to know just how many kids prefered to be the cops when we played cops and robbers back then. I for one will admit that I always liked being on the robbers side. Bad guys are always more interesting. Good guys are limited in (...) (23 years ago, 16-Nov-01, to lugnet.build.contests, lugnet.space)
   
        CAD models —Jonathan Wilson
     (...) The good news is that, as far as I know (with the recent creation of the large BT1 black & yellow triangle pannel piece) all of the elements used in the official TLC blacktron I sets have been rendered in ldraw, although the .dat file I have (...) (23 years ago, 15-Nov-01, to lugnet.build.contests)
   
        Re: 2nd Annual Space Building Contest —Eric Sophie
     This is cool watching this all happen, good luck to all you guys. Eric www.mylegomaster.com Oh, BTW, when I first read about all of this I wondered about this: (URL) was like; Man! I had those parts on the BR all these years! Blacktron! Awwww yeah. (23 years ago, 15-Nov-01, to lugnet.build.contests)
   
        Re: 2nd Annual Space Building Contest —John P. Henderson
     (...) Oh my. This means I have to learn to build Space again. Zoiks, I've been so involved in my Town as of late. I haven't built a Space set in years. But BT1 ? How could I resist an old favorite? Mmmmm... I feel a MOC coming on... I really gotta (...) (23 years ago, 15-Nov-01, to lugnet.build.contests)
   
        Re: 2nd Annual Space Building Contest —Frank Filz
     (...) Ooh, looks like I'll have to dig out my Blacktron parts that I've been collecting. I guess my existing Blacktron ship probably doesn't count since I did display it at Brickfest. I look forward to seeing all the entries even if I don't manage (...) (23 years ago, 16-Nov-01, to lugnet.build.contests)
   
        model ownership (Re: 2nd Annual Space Building Contest) —Joseph Gonzalez
   first off, the contest sounds very cool. i've seen some cool models around the net and it will be neat to see a bunch by various builders gathered together for the contest. now a question: (...) does this mean any physical models mailed will not be (...) (23 years ago, 26-Nov-01, to lugnet.build.contests)
   
        Re: model ownership (Re: 2nd Annual Space Building Contest) —Jude Beaudin
   (...) You can keep the designs, I will keep the LEGO. :-) The Scrutinizer BTW, Pictures and CAD are required to enter, not the model itself. (23 years ago, 28-Nov-01, to lugnet.build.contests)
   
        Re: model ownership (Re: 2nd Annual Space Building Contest) —Zlatko Unger
   I am really slow at this... To whom do we send our mode submision to? Later, Z. (...) (23 years ago, 3-Dec-01, to lugnet.build.contests)
   
        Re: model ownership (Re: 2nd Annual Space Building Contest) —Jude Beaudin
   Post to lugnet.space and lugnet.build.contest. If you have your entry is CAD then you still post about it and send a copy of the DAT to thescrutinizer@rogers.com [1] If your entry is real brick, you can choose to mail it to me, but all that will do (...) (23 years ago, 3-Dec-01, to lugnet.build.contests)
   
        Re: model ownership (Re: 2nd Annual Space Building Contest) —Zlatko Unger
   Ummm... ok... is the voting going to be done by a website or by replying to the thread...? (...) (23 years ago, 4-Dec-01, to lugnet.build.contests)
   
        Re: model ownership (Re: 2nd Annual Space Building Contest) —Jude Beaudin
   I will organized that through email. The Scrutinizer (...) (23 years ago, 4-Dec-01, to lugnet.build.contests)
 

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