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  Group Charters (was:Re: Fabuland Auction Update 4)
 
(...) Todd, I've been musing over this for a while, and this latest incident is a perfect opportunity to raise it with you, and the Lugnet community. Whilst no-one is arguing that Mark has and continues to breach the Lugnet Terms and Conditions, I (...) (25 years ago, 2-May-00, to lugnet.admin.terms)
 
  Re: Group Charters (was:Re: Fabuland Auction Update 4)
 
(...) .org-based groups (e.g., lugnet.org.us.nelug, lugnet.org.ca.vlc, etc.): yes with respect to market and related things (but obviously no with respect to issues of strict legalities, etc.); .loc-based and other groups: no. (...) Well, if you (...) (25 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.admin.terms)
 
  Re: Group Charters (was:Re: Fabuland Auction Update 4)
 
I understand both Todd and Peter's thoughts, and agree with both... How about creating lugnet.market.loc.xyz groups if a sufficient number of people from that area are interested in a more targeted group. These groups would welcome all market posts (...) (25 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.admin.terms)
 
  Re: Group Charters (was:Re: Fabuland Auction Update 4)
 
(...) A valid suggestion. My only problem with it (and this is my personal view) is that it is creating *another* group which requires monitoring. I'm actually looking at ways to *reduce* the number of groups (possibly because I'm lazy and can't be (...) (25 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.admin.terms)  
 
  Re: Group Charters (was:Re: Fabuland Auction Update 4)
 
(...) people (...) might (...) A good idea. This would well suite posters to loc groups who do not speak English and only want to sell to their "local" area. It would also suit those who list items on ebay.de etc (German Language Ebay). EG: (URL) A (25 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.admin.terms)
 
  Re: Group Charters (was:Re: Fabuland Auction Update 4)
 
(...) I agree - while it wouldn't make sense for a group like .loc.us, for the smaller communities, where there is a _sense_of_community_, .market related posts are more welcome as you are most probably dealing with a friend. I've sent space parts (...) (25 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.admin.terms, lugnet.loc.uk)
 
  Re: Group Charters (was:Re: Fabuland Auction Update 4)
 
(...) Wow, you nailed it! That's the feeling I'm beginning to get after reading recent messages from PeterC, PaulB, MarkH, ScottA, and others. To posit a question, how much harm would it do if all types of market traffic were allowed in .loc and (...) (25 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.admin.terms)
 
  Re: Group Charters (was:Re: Fabuland Auction Update 4)
 
Some thoughts: I don't want to see lugnet.loc.us turn into a jumble of market posts, which could happen if the default was to allow all types of market traffic in the loc groups. One way to handle it is allow the market posts in the loc groups by (...) (25 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.admin.terms)
 
  Re: Group Charters
 
(...) I thought your first message, which I will paraphrase as "no .market type posts at all in .loc (and other) groups", while at first sounds quite reasonable in an A-R kind of way, completely falls apart when you consider .market.shopping. Many (...) (25 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.admin.terms)
 
  Re: Group Charters (was:Re: Fabuland Auction Update 4)
 
(...) From a technical standpoint, it is a problem. But I think from a practical POV, it might not actually be a problem - if someone contributes to any group then they should have a say, regardless of nationality. If someone wanted to try and mess (...) (25 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.admin.terms)
 
  Re: Group Charters
 
(...) In practice - the unofficial rule-change in .loc.uk allowing some .market posts through concensous, has been quite easy to remember for me - essentially because I've been a part of that group. If you have nothing to do with a locality, then (...) (25 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.admin.terms)
 
  Re: Group Charters
 
(...) Oh, dear. Of course they will - that is, if we ALLOW certain market posts in ALL of .loc.us there will be a HUGE amount of market posts. Personally, I think that market posts should be allowed in lower-level .loc groups (eg, .loc.us.ma, or (...) (25 years ago, 3-May-00, to lugnet.admin.terms)
 
  Re: Group Charters (was:Re: Fabuland Auction Update 4)
 
(...) BTW - I was rather bemused by this: So even though Mark was "right". He was wrong to break a rule which was wrong even though in doing so he was right? Scott A A more extreme example might be someone wanting to run an auction (...) (25 years ago, 4-May-00, to lugnet.admin.terms)
 
  Re: Group Charters (was:Re: Fabuland Auction Update 4)
 
(...) Yep. Rule of law and all that. :) (25 years ago, 4-May-00, to lugnet.admin.terms)
 
  Re: Group Charters (was:Re: Fabuland Auction Update 4)
 
(...) No, I said .loc.au was a was logical place, not that it was the right place. By "logical place" I mean that common sense might suggest that posting it there might make perfect sense (if someone was clueless about the T&C). (...) It's always (...) (25 years ago, 4-May-00, to lugnet.admin.terms)
 
  Re: Group Charters (was:Re: Fabuland Auction Update 4)
 
(...) Whether (...) Indeed. But the problem with devolving any sort of power to only a limited number of groups is that other groups may also want it - or assume they already have it. Scott A (25 years ago, 5-May-00, to lugnet.admin.terms)
 
  Re: Group Charters
 
(...) be (...) A Detroit sale is EXTREMELY relevant to a loc.ca.on.<windsor> group, and vice versa. it seems like ALL of Windsor either works in SE michigan, works for a car company, and thus goes to SE michigan a lot on business, or just goes there (...) (25 years ago, 14-May-00, to lugnet.admin.terms)

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