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(...) It was a socratic question. The point was that you certainly do have control over whether your messages appear threaded. (...) Already answered. RTRFC. (...) I meant that nothing on the lugnet.com server is preventing you from posting from (...) (24 years ago, 12-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) As he just said, it's for e-mail *and* news. (24 years ago, 12-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Just a suggestion...look at the email address it came through...The threaded ones are done on the web view at home, while the others are through email at work. (...) I'll have a look when and if I ever get time. (...) But what about SMTP [I (...) (24 years ago, 12-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Beg all you want. You can't deny responsibility. You've been told what not to do, if you persist in doing it, you're responsible. Therefore you have control. (...) No company "has little or no need to use the internet". Not if it wants to (...) (24 years ago, 11-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) How would you explain that your message just now (which I'm replying to) appears properly threaded? (...) Actually, it is. See RFC822 "Standard for the Format of ARPA Internet Text Messages" and RFC1138, RFC1148, RFC1327 and RFC2156. (...) (...) (24 years ago, 11-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) I beg to differ on this...I have NO control over whether messages appear threaded...The software I use is MS Outlook. From this, the message goes to a MS Exchange server. It is this that causes the problem. Unfortunately, this piece of (...) (24 years ago, 11-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) It's (at least) MS Outlook, or some variant, or the MS Exchange server that processes the mail, or something in the way some sysops configure it, or something in the way users use it, based on the quick tests I conducted. That's not to say (...) (24 years ago, 11-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Berating? I saw no berating. I merely suggested that he ought to stop complaining about how things are done here at LUGNET until his own house is in order. Further, you see, he actually DOES have control. He can change jobs, he is working for (...) (24 years ago, 11-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) It identifies itself as: X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.####.#) in the SMTP headers, and that's about all I know. LarryP posted some more info though that might help. --Todd (24 years ago, 11-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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Todd Lehman wrote in message ... <snipped a few lines> (...) from (...) this (...) software -- (...) disasterous. (...) Do you know what software that is causing the problem? Would be a nice thing to know, so I can avoid it. /Joakim (24 years ago, 11-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Totally agree. It's not that it works weirdly, it's that it acts brokenly. If enough places rejected broken postings/messages, the offending software would get fixed. (24 years ago, 11-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Indeed. NT or IE or the combination thereof is broken in this regard, surprise surprise. IE doesn't directly deal with mime types, it foists the job off on NT (per: (URL) you will need to unwrap this to read it) Instead it is left to the OS (...) (24 years ago, 10-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp)
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(...) Actually, there never was any other way to view raw messages via HTTP than by clicking the "View Raw Message" link, which goes to the raw.cgi script. (...) raw.cgi sends a MIME content-type of 'text/plain', so you should never see anything (...) (24 years ago, 10-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp)
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(...) BTW, leave the bouncer turned on if you would! I think it is a great idea. That way when I get a bounce I can well and truly roast the originator via email reply for wasting my time instead of missing any opportunity because I didn't realise (...) (24 years ago, 10-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp)
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(...) message (...) 1. Examine the message itself. Notice the headers even in the non raw view... This was a "courtesy copy" mailed to me as well as posted. Ironically enough, by guess who. I disclaim responsibility for this. Now and forevermore. I (...) (24 years ago, 10-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp)
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(...) Ya, that Larry! :-) Lemme see if I can conjur it up again. OK, here it is: (2 URLs) [...] (...) According to the NNTP headers, ya, it was posted via email. --Todd (24 years ago, 10-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp)
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(...) This Larry? Can you post the URL, I will take a look at it and tell you what the circs were. I make it a practice not to reply via email EVER but always use the web (or very rarely, NNTP via NS comm 4.7 from my home PC) to reply. (...) I don't (...) (24 years ago, 10-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp)
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(...) I really don't think it's worth the time to work around it -- only to weed out non-compliant mailers in a consistent and reliable way. If someone is using a broken newsreader or mailer that doesn't put in the right headers, tough cookies for (...) (24 years ago, 10-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp)
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Hello Todd, Could you please cancel my message Marketplace/Buy/Sell/Trade/8315 ? In this post I gave an example of using the partsref and using the direct links to the part images, but due to a relocation of partsef, the example links became (...) (24 years ago, 10-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp)
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| | Re: Incorrect group posting [was RE: cartoonnetwork.com is having an online contest]
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(...) So what're you waiting for? Steve (24 years ago, 10-Oct-00, to lugnet.admin.nntp)
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