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In lugnet.off-topic.geek, Benjamin Whytcross writes:
> I beg to differ on this...I have NO control over whether messages appear
> threaded...
Beg all you want. You can't deny responsibility. You've been told what not to
do, if you persist in doing it, you're responsible. Therefore you have control.
> Further, I believe that it has been stated that our company's policy's are
> wrong...For a company that has little to no need to use the internet, I see no
> problems with not having it (though I would like it).
No company "has little or no need to use the internet". Not if it wants to
survive. Adapt or die. Evolve or go extinct. I understand that the sandbank is
a comfy place for your company's head, though... till the predators come.
> True, many companies do
> allow employees to access the net from their workstations, but having that
> ability in some companies doesn't mean all should do this.[1] In fact, by
> giving employees access to a non-essential service [that's right...most
> companies probably SHOULDN'T give internet access to workers, unless it is
> 100% necessary] they're promoting lower work standards, as a worker who's
> using the internet unnessesarily isn't helping the company, or being
> productive.
(reordered to make a point...) Please square the above with this:
> And I have little-to-no time to use the internet while at home...
So what you're saying is that it's a waste of company time for you to post to
Lugnet (by whatever mechanism...) but that you don't have time to do so at
home> So it's OK for you to waste company time instead of using your free
time? That's a valid choice if it's OK by your firm, but it certainly
undermines your argument that companies shouldn't allow net access, wouldn't
you say? Or are you saying you want your company to protect you from your own
tendency to waste your time on their nickel? Help me understand your point
here.
> Therefore, I've more-or-less been prevented from using lugnet to post messages
> [and not just replies, which I've tried to avoid as much as possible in the
> past.] :(
How so? You're not prevented, you're just restricted from using a broken tool.
Use a different tool. There are a lot out there you can use.
> [1] As some countries call for free trade while subsidising their own
> industries/farmers, whilst others actually DO try to provide free trade and as
> a result suffer at the hands of those who want everything THEIR way, without
> trying to be fair...
Define fair in this context. But never mind, non sequitur.
*I'm* the guy saying that the job market in Oz is depressed because of choices
Aussies make. You are welcome to your choices but don't dodge the
consequences. And I'm not calling for subsidies by the US government of
ANYTHING. I oppose them. Hence your statement is irrelevant. Besides, the US
economic miracle is due to the computer industry, and the net, the most
unsubsidied and most unregulated industries in the US, not due to subsidies of
our inefficient farmers and bailouts of failing rustbelt firms. So besides
being irrelevant, it's wrong, too.
If you want to continue that argument, go start a thread in .debate. It's
pretty old news, though.
Sorry if it seems like I am picking on you but it really gets up my nose that
you just won't admit that it is *you* that is responsible, ultimately, for
your choices. You choose to use broken tools. So Todd is stopping you. He
shouldn't have to use drastic measures, you've been asked politely to stop,
but you didn't. So stop already.
Personally, as I said before, I want the filter left on, though, now that it's
in place. Because when *I* inadvertantly post due to someone's rudeness in
mailing me a copy of their reply, I want to know about it and take corrective
action. You don't seem to care. As far as you're concerned, everyone else has
to compensate so you can keep using your broken tool.
This is a small point in the grand scheme of things but I'm dug in now. And
I'm just an obnoxious seppo. Isn't that what you called me? Chickens do often
come home to roost.
Soon as you admit culpability instead of squirming away from responsibility,
I'll stop.
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