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In article lugnet.admin.general, lar@voyager.net (Larry Pieniazek) writes:
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> If tente is to be included, I'd prefer that it be called off-brands
> because I would have to say clearly that tente is no clone. It's not
> even a workalike, really.
>
> [...]
> I am a purist. Yet I own a fair bit of tente, a whole shoebox full. (1)
> None of which is for sale. Purist and Tente. Contradiction? No. I own
> lots of Tinkertoys, lots of American Bricks, some Lincoln Logs, some
> Kenner Bridge and Girder, some Erector, some of two different brands of
> E. German building sets. None of which are clones. All are different
> building systems. Megablox and Tyco are clones. Tente isn't. IMHO.
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> So it doesn't belong under clones, or even off-brands!!!
The fuzzilogical side of me wants to say that Tyco is a 90% clone and
Megablox is an 80% clone and Tente is a 20% clone. :-)
[Hey, now there's a fun research project: Study the evolution of
construction toys and who came before whom. Did Erector come before
Technic? Did it inspire Technic? :-]
> I'd put it and all the rest I named above under
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> lugnet.other-systems
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> because they are not clones.
Heh heh, that sure begs for sub-categories, eh?
Say, what does "other" mean up there in "other-systems"? Does it mean non-
LEGO as in "other systems besides the LEGO System"? If so, it may be
confusing... For some people (casual enthusiasts, grandparents, etc.), the
DUPLO System and the PRIMO System aren't considered to be LEGO or "legos"
in the same way that LEGO-System-scale elements are. What then about the
TECHNIC System and the ZNAP System and the SCALA System? We wouldn't want
people accidentally thinking that non-LEGO-System products from LEGO would
belong there.
I think anything about other non-LEGO® systems would really need a hierarchy
name that clearly suggests "hear ye, hear ye, this is a hierarchy for all
types of construction toys -except- anything produced by the Lego Group."
But that's all getting pretty far outside LUGNET's sphere of focus. I'd
like to encourage talk of imitation brands or other construction toys about
as much as I'd like to encourage flaming debates over politics and religion.
Don't get me wrong -- I think all of that is great stuff; this just isn't
the place to nurture it.
You could say the .off-topic ng hierarchy is kind of like an anti-matter
containment field. :-)
> They are worthy of discussion in their own right.
Maybe there are clubs for those on Yahoo!.
> 1 - including about 15 of the same small coast guard cutter with heli
> set that came as a premium for mailing in Rice Krispies box tops (2)
>
> 2 - I hit the fraternty's cases before anyone else in the house did and
> mailed them all in, we were eating cereal with holes in the boxes (3)
> for 6 months... Never did live that particular incident down
>
> 3 - but not the bags, mind you... I was very careful. Also rather stoned
> at the time but that's a different topic.
Well, at least you didn't spill bongwater on the boxes. (Right? =:*)
--Tood
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| (...) Well hmm. I see your point. I would put forth an argument that while LUGNET is not here to foster discussion outside its charter (if you allow other construction systems, do you then allow ALL toys??? Where does it stop), a narrowly focused (...) (26 years ago, 2-Feb-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.admin.general)
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| removed admin.general on this followup, it's not admin.. (...) More than one dimension here. One is, how compatible is it. (do studs and plugs mate? How many different kinds of mates? just the basic stud, or does rod system mate as well, how about (...) (26 years ago, 2-Feb-99, to lugnet.general)
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| (...) If tente is to be included, I'd prefer that it be called off-brands because I would have to say clearly that tente is no clone. It's not even a workalike, really. (...) I am a purist. Yet I own a fair bit of tente, a whole shoebox full. (1) (...) (26 years ago, 2-Feb-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.admin.general)
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