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Subject: 
Re: New blood
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lugnet.admin.general
Date: 
Sun, 4 Jul 1999 11:18:30 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.general, Todd Lehman writes:
> In lugnet.admin.general, Sybrand Bonsma writes:
> > The (my) problem with such a post is that you probably also get people on
> > Lugnet that are only interested in selling or buying sets.
> 
> Every type of LEGO fan is welcome here.

I know that and I think that is how it should be. The people I was thinking
about are people that want to sell LEGO without respecting other people
opinions and comments. I'm thinking of a person from about a year / year and a
half on RTL who wanted to make a business out of selling LEGO. However I
wouldn't mind if someone like Emanuel from Ets-Dya-Shopping, who also runs a
business, posted here once in a while because he does respect other people.
> 
> > Not a real
> > problem as long as they post in the correct newsgroups, but I suspect that
> > some of those people will post their message also in lugnet.general and
> > other newsgroups which are not appropriate and which might irratitate the
> > 'regular' people on Lugnet.
> 
> That's a risk, but it's not impossible to (a) educate people not to do that
> and (b) boot riff-raff who refuse to play by the rules.  So far, no one has
> ever needed the boot for that, and only a couple or three people have posted
> auction or for-sale stuff in .general, etc., and those cases were primarily
> accidents of pure misunderstanding rather than mischief.

Indeed, that`s true. But I think the number of posts in the wrong newsgroups
will increase a lot, because the people who are currently on LUGNET are mostly
fans who are around a long itme, whereas many people on RTL are relatively a
short time active.
> 
> > So, in my opinion it would be best to say to the regular people on RTL
> > that lugnet exists and that they should check it out, but this is a lot
> > more work.
> 
> I don't think it's possible to define "regular" people, is it?  And if you
> tried to keep certain types of people out, you'd just be disappointed when
> they found out about it some other way (like a web link).

It is indeed hard to define 'regular' people, (I thought I had placed brackets
in the original post, because the difficulty of defining regular), and that is
the main problem with this solution. When people find out about LUGNET via a
web link or something, it shows IMO that they are interested in LEGO in general
and not only to sell the LEGO they have stored in the closet for years.
> 
> Either way, LUGNET isn't designed to be a private country club or fraternity
> where the in-people make new-blood selections.  Rather, all blood is welcome
> here -- with open arms.  As long as someone is willing to play by the rules
> of the sandbox (and there really aren't too many), then they're welcome to
> stop by, visit, lurk, join in the discussions, stay a while, or whatever.
> 
> I think making personal invitations to friends/contacts is great.  Personal
> recommendations carry much more weight than blanket recommendations.

Therefore, I think this is one of the bests way to get new blood in of which we
are pretty sure that they will contribute to the present community. With a post
on RTL you will also get new blood in, but you are less sure what the results
are.
> 
> But if we consciously try to exclude whole other groups or subgroups of
> people, that just isn't healthy for the community, IMO.
> 
> --Todd

You have a good point there.

So, overviewing your comments I think you would appreciate if once in a while a
post about LUGNET was placed on RTL (among other methods to get new blood).
I will try to make an example of such a post and first place that in this
thread so everybody can comment on that before I post it periodically on RTL.
One last question: Who runs the RTL FAQ ? I don't see it often on RTL, and
maybe it is a good idea to post both messages at the same time.

Sybrand Bonsma



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  Proposed message (was: Re: New blood)
 
Here is the message like I think can be put on RTL to get more people to LUGNET. If you have comments, please let me know, so I can make the changes before posting. Message: Hello all LEGO fans, This message is proposed to let you know the existence (...) (27 years ago, 4-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general)

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  Re: New blood
 
(...) Every type of LEGO fan is welcome here. (...) That's a risk, but it's not impossible to (a) educate people not to do that and (b) boot riff-raff who refuse to play by the rules. So far, no one has ever needed the boot for that, and only a (...) (27 years ago, 2-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general)

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