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Re: Custom Created Set Reference
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Sat, 31 Mar 2001 12:47:10 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.database, Todd Lehman writes:
In lugnet.admin.database, lehman@javanet.com (Todd Lehman) writes:
In lugnet.admin.database, Larry Pieniazek writes:
The inventory is copyrighted, yes.

How's that?

What I mean is, you claim copyright on the particular manifestation of the
inventory you have created, yes?  And certainly on the building instruction
booklet you provde, yes?  But not on the mathematical set listing the
constituent elements and their respective colors, right?

Since I include an inventory page in my instructions, the representation of
that inventory is copyrighted, yes. If you wanted to make an inventory
available elsewhere, except under fair use doctrine, you would either need
my permission or you would need to present the information in a
substantially different format. Further you'd have to count the elements
yourself to come up with the information. Just retyping what I gave you when
you bought a copy would be a violation of copyright.

The whole point is moot since how would you get the information about what
is in the inventory without purchasing the set? Possession of the
instructions in the first place without having purchased them is a violation
of copyright. And if you purchase the set you're bound by my terms, meaning
that you can't give the information out to others without transferring the
entire set and destroying any copies you yourself made.

You could reverse engineer based on published info but you wouldn't be sure
you were 100% accurate without access to copyrighted info or access to the
set itself, in which case you're bound by my terms. Which include non
propagation of information.

I'm not a big corporation that can afford not to assert rights.

All that said, if someone was interested in cataloging all my sets and all
the sets of other non LEGO sources, I'd work with them. Gladly. But I fail
to see the point of publishing the inventories. They change from run to run,
and even within runs, and there's not much market in buying custom kits as a
source of parts.

++Lar



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  Re: Custom Created Set Reference
 
(...) As I've said in my more comprehensive reply: (URL) believe that a inventory is not very usefull for custom created set, and I had no intention to include inventories in a possible Custom Created Set Reference. I'm aware of the importance of (...) (23 years ago, 31-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.database)
  Re: Custom Created Set Reference
 
(...) Hmm, an interesting topic... One could get a good inventory by noticing that John Doe happens to have brought set GOB-1234 to Brickfest and then disassemble it to count the parts. Of course how you get it back together again is another (...) (23 years ago, 1-Apr-01, to lugnet.admin.database, lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) What I mean is, you claim copyright on the particular manifestation of the inventory you have created, yes? And certainly on the building instruction booklet you provde, yes? But not on the mathematical set listing the constituent elements and (...) (23 years ago, 31-Mar-01, to lugnet.admin.database)

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