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		Re: With Saddam's sons dead, now we just need to bag dad (Baghdad get it?)
(...) I was referring to your partisan liberalness. (...) I think you are unaware of how liberal your ideas actually are. I know I'm conservative; I'd bet you think you are pretty moderate... (...) No (thanks to the Israelis). Your refusal to come (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: With Saddam's sons dead, now we just need to bag dad (Baghdad get it?)
(...) So are you asserting that because they never had their day in court, they were innocent? (...) Your comparison is, if not completely laughable, not analogous. (...) Dude, to go out in a blaze of glory was their decision! I read a quotation (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Why do these things always have to land in dense jungles...?
-snip (...) (sighs) Not this again. Adrimal Wells, is there any more information of this strange UFO? Spc. Ops. Dead 7 Cap'n Dean Hennen (21 years ago, 9-Jul-03, to lugnet.space, lugnet.build, FTX)

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		Re: With Saddam's sons dead, now we just need to bag dad (Baghdad get it?)
(...) Yeah, I was called in on that characterization as well by Dave! What I meant basically was that sometimes violence can beget peace. How about it is good to resist against evil, even if that means going to war. But I think we are of the same (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: With Saddam's sons dead, now we just need to bag dad (Baghdad get it?)
(...) Let me say this, Dave! I won't defend big business. I am not a fan of "big business", nor am I a fan of big government. "Big" in these areas is bad IMO, inevitabley leading to corruption and abuse of power. I don't know any specifics about (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Intellectual Property Question
Welcome to 20 minutes into the future, people. Copyrights are dead. Patents are dead. IP is dead. Digital means infinitely reproducible. And as William Gibson has observed: "the street has its own uses for things." It's not a matter of what is right (...) (21 years ago, 23-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: With Saddam's sons dead, now we just need to bag dad (Baghdad get it?)
I'm uncomfortable with the idea of assassination as a worthy military or national goal, and I much would have preferred capture and trial. If killing them was the only way, then fine. But if there were options that were not pursued, then no. The (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: With Saddam's sons dead, now we just need to bag dad (Baghdad get it?)
(...) ...or not: U.S. Soldiers Killed After Saddam's Sons Die (URL) BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Two American soldiers were killed in ambushes in Iraq Wednesday, dashing any U.S. hopes that the killing of Saddam Hussein's sons, Uday and Qusay, would snuff (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: With Saddam's sons dead, now we just need to bag dad (Baghdad get it?)
(...) Your certainty confounds me AGAIN! There was no trial. There is no evidence. Sure, there are allegations. All I do know is that two persons alleged to be Saddam's children and likewise alleged to be criminals against humanity were killed. I (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: With Saddam's sons dead, now we just need to bag dad (Baghdad get it?)
(...) Probably. But the impact of their deaths remains to be seen, alas. I am hopeful that the elimination of those two brutes will allow Iraq to begin to heal from the atrocities inflicted upon it by enemies both at home and abroad. However, it's (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		With Saddam's sons dead, now we just need to bag dad (Baghdad get it?)
Although I don't revel in bloodshed, this should be great news to the entire world community. (URL) with evidence that these two were largely behind the guerrilla attacks on the coalition in Iraq hopeful the region will begin to calm down a bit. (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: With Saddam's sons dead, now we just need to bag dad (Baghdad get it?)
(...) The Sons of Saddam seem to have forgotten that trite statement. Or perhaps, "He who lives be the sword, dies by the sword." So, yes, it's trite, but it also kinda backfires against David since it can also be used to explain why it happened. I (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: With Saddam's sons dead, now we just need to bag dad (Baghdad get it?)
(...) Business, sure, but look at the circumstances. Cheney was Secretary of Defense in Gulf War I and CEO of Halliburton in 1995, and in 1999 oil deals were struck with Iraq. Let's remember that this was during the time when Saddam was already (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: The Duel Release: CastleQuest and Uldeseen!
(...) yes i read all the way through the rules. and im not really game to read them again, like matt (or should i say aaron?) suggested to point out specifically which rules i didn't care for. and i guess i should point out that i wasn't expecting a (...) (21 years ago, 9-Jul-03, to lugnet.castle)

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		Re: what makes us different?
(...) Hear Hear! great coverage of all the issues. you make some very powerful points. just to add my own to your thoughts: building ships is a challenge, the parts are relatively scarce, and when they do come up, they can be expensive. what puzzles (...) (21 years ago, 9-Jul-03, to lugnet.pirates, FTX)

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		Re: How many things need to stack up before we throw this jerk out?
(...) Uh-huh. You have a link for that, John? I thought not...There is no proof to support any such allegations. That lack of proof is the very issue under discussion. The president spoke in terms of dead certainties and has come up empty-handed. (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: With Saddam's sons dead, now we just need to bag dad (Baghdad get it?)
(...) Saddam wasn't particularly unstable. His actions are fairly predictable, in fact. I suppose any dictatorship is inherently unstable, but that is hardly a valid excuse in and of itself (see: all the other dictatorships that the U.S. has no (...) (21 years ago, 24-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: With Saddam's sons dead, now we just need to bag dad (Baghdad get it?)
(...) Skeptical which way? (...) And neither do I. At the same time I don't believe in letting them off the hook and overtaxing the vastly less wealthy members of our society instead. The reality is that we have a corporate welfare scheme of untold (...) (21 years ago, 25-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		BrickFest Sumo competition
BrickFest is almost upon us. One of the highlights will be the Sumo competition on Sunday. If you are planning on taking part, then you need to know; The beacons will be infrared emitters - provided by the organizers. The detectors may be; your own (...) (21 years ago, 10-Jul-03, to lugnet.events.brickfest, lugnet.general, lugnet.robotics, lugnet.technic)

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		Re: With Saddam's sons dead, now we just need to bag dad (Baghdad get it?)
(...) And how many people seriously thoguht that the death of the kids was going to help? Not to sound pithy or anything much like that, but it's only the idiots and morons that don't learn from history--violence begets violence. And this is the (...) (21 years ago, 23-Jul-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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