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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) Read, learn... again. (URL) -Mike Petrucelli (21 years ago, 15-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) This one? 01. Unitarian Universalism (100%) 02. Secular Humanism (96%) 03. Liberal Quakers (88%) 04. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (74%) 05. Nontheist (69%) 06. Theravada Buddhism (69%) 07. Neo-Pagan (62%) 08. Bahá'í Faith (59%) (...) (21 years ago, 15-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) I don't see the disagreement here. I think you are saying that you DO allow questions to enter into your faith-schema, and that your faith has so far "survived" (I couldn't think of a better word here) these challenges. I don't think anyone (...) (21 years ago, 15-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! Four out of five scientists claim....
(...) Science does not pretend to have the answer to the origin of the universe. It has speculation, to be sure, and some ideas on how the creation of the universe progressed. It's one of those questions that we don't see the answer to now, but from (...) (21 years ago, 15-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) I know that you have to believe this, but I have to believe that I have sufficient gas in the tank to make it to the next fueling station. Saying that I have to believe something is basically equivalent to saying I really really really want to (...) (21 years ago, 15-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) Slander. I bleed (and bleed, and bleed) Dodger Blue. None of this Angel stuff for me - especially with those red uniforms and "Edison" field. It's The Big A or nothing! (...) Each person must find their own path to God (the truth, philosophy, (...) (21 years ago, 15-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) Good point--let it be thus stipulated. Dave! (21 years ago, 15-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) I must take exception to this hypothetical. It has in no way been shown that atheists have any special attraction towards genocide; whereas by contrast, I have elsewhere shown that people of the many Jewish or Xtian faiths must at least admit (...) (21 years ago, 15-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! Yggdrasil's taproots...
(...) Noooo, incorrect! The Vikings that migrated to Minnesota have set up a new religion that was formally worshipped every Sunday, but due to various schismatic cults (ESPN, FOX, CBS, ABC) now worship occasionally on Saturday, Thursday, and Monday (...) (21 years ago, 15-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) And what are those cultural values based on? The reality of genetic inbreeding, so it kinda loops back on itself. Saying cultural values is saying that it is genetic issues, which is not in the "aside from" column. I think you need to be more (...) (21 years ago, 15-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) Really? So you're not saying that there's an absolute "wrongness" in such a marriage? I confess, that surprises me. And if our culture evolved (despite the best efforts of hardcore traditionalists), then you'd agree that there's nothing (...) (21 years ago, 15-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) Absolutely, if they're both legally consenting adults. If the problems inherent in genetic problems inbreeding can be overcome, I don't even know why they shouldn't be allowed to have children. Aside from these genetic issues, on what basis (...) (21 years ago, 15-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! Yggdrasil's taproots...
(...) I couldn't say for sure, but I rather imagine the Rus were followers of the Norse gods. I just can't imagine a bunch of Vikings being secular humanists. :-) -->Bruce<-- League of Green-Eyed Odin's Advocates (21 years ago, 15-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) If I may wager a guess, I would infer that you yourself identify Christianity (specifically, the version to which you adhere) as superior (for you) in some way to all other faiths and non-faiths. If it were not, then why would you follow your (...) (21 years ago, 15-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: WARNING, VERY DISTURBING IMAGES (was Re: Holy crap! )
(...) I shudder to think how bad it would be without our final check. Besides you are still agruing for an untested, let alone an unproven, concept. There is still no evidence supporting your claims that Democracy or Republics can exist without an (...) (21 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: WARNING, VERY DISTURBING IMAGES (was Re: Holy crap! )
(...) And yet you support the notion that these people (the government) should be the only ones with weapons. I'm sorry it had to be said. -Mike Petrucelli (21 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: WARNING, VERY DISTURBING IMAGES (was Re: Holy crap! )
(...) Why should the horrors of real war be off-topic for off-topic? I couldn't willingly look extensively at that material right now, but a brief look at the front page told me enough. OBL? At large. People beyond the very small group in the U.S. (...) (21 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		WARNING, VERY DISTURBING IMAGES (was Re: Holy crap! )
(...) Perhaps the smoke you smell is the char of civilian Iraqi flesh. Take a look at these (URL) horrifying images> to see the real payoff of the oil war that Dubya has pushed so enthusiastically. Do not click this link if you are upset by graphic (...) (21 years ago, 21-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: WARNING, VERY DISTURBING IMAGES (was Re: Holy crap! )
(...) Canada. Sure we may have people who have guns in the house--my uncle still has his shotgun from his hunting days--but it's not mandated under law. We have no "2nd" or comparable clause thereof. I haven't heard a Canadian say "I have my gun for (...) (21 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: WARNING, VERY DISTURBING IMAGES (was Re: Holy crap! )
(...) Well, the armed forces, the police, the reserves... any group that's "well regulated". Again I'd like any logical justification of private ownership of guns and how that would prevent this sort of thing. Oh wait, you own your guns and Iraq (...) (21 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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