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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) That's pretty funny. I consider you largely irrelevant to my life and strong feelings. And indeed, as I thought you might, you are backpedalling -- just not in a way that I find socially acceptable or redeeming. I don't have anything else to (...) (23 years ago, 16-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Iraq (was Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap)
(...) And we discussed this before--and you added addendums to the idea of "whole people" to not include those that are too young, old, infirm, or mentally unstable. Did you also stop to consider that, in context of the day and age, that "whole (...) (23 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Iraq (was Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap)
(...) Not so much in the 'officialdom' of your leaders. (...) Lovely words really. Words like "service" to the country, "defence of the fatherland"... Would almost sound like a draft to me. But I'm not up on all things Argentinian. (...) I have no (...) (23 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! Four out of five scientists claim....
(...) But the key difference is that I am saying "I accept that the universe may always have existed," rather than "I believe that God has always existed." I offer and accept the universe's existence as a possibility, but I don't put faith in that (...) (23 years ago, 16-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Iraq (was Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap)
(...) It hasn't been amply settled. You are not a well regulated militia by any standard of those words. It's a point you consitently avoid--you and others cut right to the "the rights of the people to own guns shall not be infringed" Further, you (...) (23 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Iraq (was Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap)
(...) And I would be in support of revoultions to overthrow tyrannies. Look, if you want to sell democracy to the world, which is a want that your country so obviously has, then you have to 'believe' (for lack of a better word) in democracy. These (...) (23 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Iraq (was Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap)
(...) Not to really be flippant--so gov't officials aren't allowed to own guns? Any time I've heard of bills being presented to "regulate" the sales, distribution, or ownership of guns in your country, a huge furor erupts. Guns, or the use thereof, (...) (23 years ago, 22-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! Four out of five scientists claim....
(...) Well, let's disclaim once again that science isn't in the business of proving anything as 100% fact, so I reserve the statement that science will always permit modification to existing theory. Science hasn't yet produced a supernova in the (...) (23 years ago, 16-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! Four out of five scientists claim....
(...) That's called special pleading, and it's a fallacy. It's a double-standard based in circular reasoning and cannot be used in any logically sound argument. (...) Well, that's as much a statement of faith as anything I've heard you make, and it (...) (23 years ago, 16-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) Here are my results: 1. Secular Humanism (100%) 2. Unitarian Universalism (96%) 3. Liberal Quakers (83%) 4. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (83%) 5. Nontheist (76%) 6. Theravada Buddhism (67%) 7. Neo-Pagan (64%) 8. Christian Science (...) (23 years ago, 16-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) Let me phrase it this way: Do you ask questions that, if answered, could cause you to reject your faith as invalid? That is, do you ask the kinds of questions that may require you to abandon your current worldview? If the answer is no, then I (...) (23 years ago, 16-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! And Hoppy thought he was the chief pagan :-)
Oh, and my Spiritual Type score was 37, on a scale of 25 to 100. 30 - 39 Spiritual Dabbler -- Open to spiritual matters but far from impressed Who picks a scale of 25-100? I was really surprised I didn't get Hardcore Skeptic - I guess it's my (...) (23 years ago, 18-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Holy crap! And Hoppy thought he was the chief pagan :-)
Here's my results, answering all as accurately as I could, considering many of the flawed answer choices: 1. Secular Humanism (100%) 2. Unitarian Universalism (99%) 3. Liberal Quakers (90%) 4. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (86%) 5. (...) (23 years ago, 18-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
But you'll never GET such an apology. John is such a PRIDEful Xtian (oops, that's a sin, innit), that he'll never admit that his religion started out of (i.e., is based on), and continues to breed, violence and death. He's a Xtian Bigot, and nothing (...) (23 years ago, 18-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Iraq (was Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap)
(...) You didn't say anything new in there at all, Mike. Lets have a looksee-- " Are you joking? “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” What (...) (23 years ago, 21-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Iraq (was Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap)
(...) The cohesion is there. I think you're just blinded to it. It's an inherent factor in your culture--it's something I noticed when I was in Chicago last week. In one breath a guy I was in a meeting with spoke of 'socialism' as if it was dung on (...) (23 years ago, 21-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! Four out of five scientists claim....
(...) We've been down that road before. Science specifically places no faith in much of anything - not even results, which is why experiments are duplicated to see if the same results are obtained by a different set of senses. New information can (...) (23 years ago, 15-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) That test is certainly interesting: 1. Bahá'í Faith (100%) 2. Islam (96%) 3. Orthodox Judaism (96%) 4. Sikhism (94%) 5. Jainism (84%) 6. Reform Judaism (76%) 7. Hinduism (69%) 8. Orthodox Quaker (57%) 9. Mahayana Buddhism (57%) 10. Liberal (...) (23 years ago, 16-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! And Hoppy thought he was the chief pagan :-)
(...) Haha! That was a great test. I out-neo-paganed the neo-pagan! I see the religion I was initially exposed to (inflicted with?) way down near the bottom. Interesting results. The religion I was initially raised in (inflicted with) is way down (...) (23 years ago, 16-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Holy crap! (was Re: The partisian trap in California)
(...) I second that. -Mike Petrucelli (23 years ago, 15-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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