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| | | Fellow Lego Train Enthusiasts Check out the link to see ideas for a new geometry of Lego Tracks, (URL) with enough chatter on Lugnet and other sites Lego might decide to investigate the possibilities! Can't hurt to try. Gary BLTG Brisbane Lego Train (...) (19 years ago, 15-May-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.au)
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| | | | | Re: New Lego Track! —Mark Bellis
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| | | | | (...) I agree that express switches are a good idea - no need to slow down too much to switch tracks. The important thing is that it should be easy enough to make a crossover. I see that your plan allows this by having 40 studs length and 8 studs (...) (19 years ago, 15-May-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.au)
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| | | | | Re: New Lego Track! —John Neal
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| | | | | (...) No, it can't, but this topic isn't new. Check out the ILTCO library for a presentation by Ben Fleskes about (URL) track geometry>. He served up everything TLG would need to proceed with this idea years ago. I believe that TLG will never make (...) (19 years ago, 15-May-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.au, FTX)
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| | | | | | | Re: New Lego Track! —Sonnich Jensen
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| | | | | | | "John" <John@TCLTC.org> wrote in message news:IGJnyJ.1rEv@lugnet.com... (...) idea (...) from LEGO (...) sounds (...) to run (...) I agree. The idea is good, but the problem is simple - the market is narrow for these. Yes we would buy it, but just (...) (19 years ago, 15-May-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.au)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: New Lego Track! —Peter Parsons
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Too true Gary (...) Silly is perhaps not strong enough (try stupid) They have not seen the potential that we see at train shows from the true hobbiests that would like to try it. I am sure that the same thing ould be said in the USA. (...) (...) (19 years ago, 16-May-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.au)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: New Lego Track! —Samarth Moray
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Trainheads want their new track geometries. Spacers want to see 3vil and PCS turned into official sets. I don't read castle, but I'm sure they have their own hang ups.... (...) I'll have you know I was myself surprised when Kelly McKeirnan (...) (19 years ago, 16-May-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.au)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: New Lego Track! —Gary Quinlan
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| | | | | | | | (...) It's called bread and butter marketing. Keep producing the goods that pay the rent, expand on them if your gaurenteed sales. They pay for themselves and help pay the rent. That way you can then venture out and try other things that are unknown (...) (19 years ago, 16-May-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.au)
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| | | | | | | Re: New Lego Track! —Gary Quinlan
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| | | | | | (...) That's my point, maybe one posting every few years doesn't really constitute a real need to TLG, they might need a more blatant approach. (...) If they would of put that money into new track geometry they probably would recouped their costs, (...) (19 years ago, 16-May-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.au, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: New Lego Track! —Bryan Kinkel
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| | | | | I was a bit bummed when I realized this message thread was not an announcement of new track but rather another discussion of something LEGO should do... Bryan "Gary Quinlan" <gquinlan@tpg.com.au> wrote in message news:IGIw8n.24vn@lugnet.com... (...) (19 years ago, 16-May-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.au)
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| | | | | | | PROPOSAL for new track (was Re: New Lego Track! —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) I agree, I think the subject line could have been chosen a bit more clearly. I also have a question about the images of the different radii track? Are these new images or just recolors of the images that Ben Fleskes did? If they're new, how do (...) (19 years ago, 16-May-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.au)
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| | | | | | | | Re: PROPOSAL for new track (was Re: New Lego Track! —John Neal
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| | | | | | | In lugnet.trains, Larry Pieniazek wrote: <snip> (...) That's my huge hang-up. Why is it so impossible and dangerous to make an investment into the Trains line, yet at the same time some completely clueless individual or group convinced the right (...) (19 years ago, 16-May-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.au, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: PROPOSAL for new track (was Re: New Lego Track! —John Neal
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| | | | | | | | In lugnet.trains, John Neal wrote: Interest in trains will go away. Sorry. Meant to say, "Interest in trains will NOT go away" JOHN (19 years ago, 16-May-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.au, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: PROPOSAL for new track (was Re: New Lego Track! —Gary Quinlan
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| | | | | | (...) Well I suppose I should not expect LEGO to make any moves towards providing tracks that would, I think, be a worthwhile investment. Silly of me to expect others on LUGNET to agree that new track geometry would be something worthwhile and (...) (19 years ago, 17-May-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.au)
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| | | | | | | | Re: PROPOSAL for new track (was Re: New Lego Track! —Peter Parsons
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| | | | | | | (...) No Gary not silly at all we have just echoed what the general public ask us at our train shows (how many was it 120,000 over 3 days) I would imagine that the Melbourne Train show get the same questions. not to mention the States as well. (...) (19 years ago, 17-May-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.au)
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| | | | | | | | Re: PROPOSAL for new track (was Re: New Lego Track! —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | (...) I still think this is a valid observation, helping readers figure out what something is about is a good idea. (...) I am still interested in the answer to this question. (...) Unfortunately, I think you shouldn't expect that, for reasons that (...) (19 years ago, 17-May-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.au)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: PROPOSAL for new track (was Re: New Lego Track! —Gary Quinlan
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| | | | | | | | (...) I was sent an email from somebody not associeated with Lugnet. It was a brickshelf reference about something that was repeatedly talked about by members of the public at our recent public train display. I don't know about you but juggling the (...) (19 years ago, 18-May-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.au)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: PROPOSAL for new track (was Re: New Lego Track! —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | | I've snipped all the rest away because I agree with it, close enough, and I want to focus on one thing... (...) THe following is my view but I believe it's pretty widely shared. LUGNET is (especially when it's working right) a meritocracy. You get (...) (19 years ago, 18-May-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.au)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: PROPOSAL for new track (was Re: New Lego Track! —Gary Quinlan
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| | | | | | | | | | I've also snipped all the rest away because I agree with it, close enough, and I want to focus on certain things But if I get it right, what your trying to say is that posting in newsgroups etc is easily overlooked and taken for granted so it is (...) (19 years ago, 19-May-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.au)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: PROPOSAL for new track (was Re: New Lego Track! —Peter Parsons
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Beause it is just getting BORING (...) Cheers Champ well done "Trains Rule" Peter #348 (19 years ago, 19-May-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.au)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: PROPOSAL for new track (was Re: New Lego Track! —John Riley
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| | | | | | | | (...) Australia is definitely not the unique case, but more likely the typical case. In the US, most consumers can only buy Lego trains online or from S@H. During the holiday shopping season, TRU may carry trains, but other than that, trains are (...) (19 years ago, 18-May-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.au)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: PROPOSAL for new track (was Re: New Lego Track! —Jonathan Wilson
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| | | | | | | | | (...) The big question is, why arent LEGO trains available on the retail shelves? I suspect part of it is because LEGO trains as a rule are expensive. Expensive compared to other LEGO sets (due to the cost of the electrics) And more to the point, (...) (19 years ago, 18-May-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.au)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: PROPOSAL for new track (was Re: New Lego Track! —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Is this actually true? I think you need to compare to LGB, Lionel, or quality HO or N gear rather than comparing to Bachman or Tyco stuff (or the equivalent low quality Oz brands). In that case LEGO stuff is cheaper. At least the starter sets (...) (19 years ago, 18-May-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.au)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: PROPOSAL for new track (was Re: New Lego Track! —Frank Filz
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Hmm, you need to be careful in including Bachman in the list of cheap trains... Bachman has remade itself and is now a purveyor of reasonable cost high quality trains... I agree though, LEGO trains are of comparable cost to comparable quality (...) (19 years ago, 18-May-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.au)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: PROPOSAL for new track (was Re: New Lego Track! —David Koudys
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| | | | | | | | In lugnet.trains, John Riley wrote: <snip> (...) They are in the new greys--I bought the Harry Potter motorized Hogwarts package--the track that come in the Hogwarts box are the new dark grey. The funny thing is I bought the 'big package' from (...) (19 years ago, 18-May-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.au)
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| | | | | | | | Re: PROPOSAL for new track (was Re: New Lego Track! —Bryan Kinkel
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| | | | | | Gary, Don't get all disappointed. It was me who originally made the post about the subject of the message. I was catching up on emails, LUGNET posts, etc and saw the "New Lego Track!" subject. Of course it was not what I expected it to be. If my (...) (19 years ago, 17-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | Re: PROPOSAL for new track (was Re: New Lego Track! —Jan-Albert van Ree
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| | | | | | | (...) Those were deemed too complicated and that's why they're not in the 9V system anymore. (19 years ago, 17-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: PROPOSAL for new track (was Re: New Lego Track! —Bryan Kinkel
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| | | | | | | | | Too complicated for adults? Or too complicated for children? Did LEGO determine that the automated parts were too complex for their target audience (children?) Assuming it is *financially viable*, why can't LEGO have introductory train sets for (...) (19 years ago, 17-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: PROPOSAL for new track (was Re: New Lego Track! —John Neal
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) They already do that. Duplo trains for children, 9 volt for those up to 11 or so. After 12, it's all rock 'n roll, girls, and video games, and girls. "Adults" are supposed to move on to model railroading;-) JOHN (19 years ago, 17-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: PROPOSAL for new track (was Re: New Lego Track! —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) Been there, done that... didn't like it, came here instead. (19 years ago, 17-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: PROPOSAL for new track (was Re: New Lego Track! —John Neal
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) Degenerate. ;-) JOHN (19 years ago, 17-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: PROPOSAL for new track (was Re: New Lego Track! —David Koudys
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) Yep-did HO for years--too much time and not enough fun. I'll stick with the "L" gauge now :) Dave K (19 years ago, 18-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: PROPOSAL for new track (was Re: New Lego Track! —Bryan Kinkel
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) I have a stack of Lionel & RailKing catalogs that I use for building inspiration. If I start ordering things from those catalogs, I will be in real deep with my wife! -- Bryan "John" <John@TCLTC.org> wrote in message (...) (19 years ago, 17-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: PROPOSAL for new track (was Re: New Lego Track! —John Neal
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) You mean to say that, given your LEGO habit, you aren't there already??? Slacker. :-) JOHN (19 years ago, 17-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: PROPOSAL for new track (was Re: New Lego Track! —Jan-Albert van Ree
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Adults weren't even considered a market in those days... (...) Logistics, cost, risk and it not being a core market. Nothing else. (19 years ago, 17-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: PROPOSAL for new track (was Re: New Lego Track! —Juhana Siren
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| | | | | | | | (...) Complicated --- hrm. I was a child in the 80's and absolutely loved those. They certainly weren't too complicated - and remember that they were provided with the same kind of instructions (excellent, that is) as other Lego sets. If (...) (19 years ago, 20-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: PROPOSAL for new track (was Re: New Lego Track! —Jan-Albert van Ree
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| | | | | | | | Juhana Siren wrote: [SNIP] (...) It's easy to get by in Europe, I know several folks who are switching to 9V to be able to participate in events. But the signals usually don't change hands, since those can be modded to work on 9V too ;) As for the (...) (19 years ago, 20-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: PROPOSAL for new track (was Re: New Lego Track! —Juhana Siren
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| | | | | | | | (...) Yep; just change the one resistor... oh well... no such events in .fi, although you do see some Lego trains in the bigger stores... (...) And it's a damn shame, when Lego could be changing the times instead... :P OR at least they could be (...) (19 years ago, 23-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: PROPOSAL for new track (was Re: New Lego Track! —Niels Karsdorp
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| | | | | | | | (...) LEGO had remote controlled locomotives back in 1968. Blow the whistle (included in the trainset) and the train went forward. Blow the whistle, the train stops. Soon a new version was introduced, which also supported the train going backwards. (...) (19 years ago, 26-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | Re: PROPOSAL for new track (was Re: New Lego Track! —John Neal
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| | | | | | | (...) How's this for a "big risk": I say, scrap the 9 volt system, and produce specialized train parts (from the trucks on up) that are to scale with "O" gauge. Have AFOLs use existing trucks, motors, couplers, and track currently used (and already (...) (19 years ago, 17-May-05, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: PROPOSAL for new track (was Re: New Lego Track! —Gary Quinlan
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| | | | | | (...) Accepted, I'm somewhat less disappointed now! (...) Yes, and a good start would be a larger radius curved track (had to add my plug) (...) I don't think its a risk rather than a lack of will (only my opinion) (...) True, and may I add (...) (19 years ago, 18-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | Slightly more rational? (was: New Lego Track!) —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | (...) How about if lego provided just 3 things for us: 1. Bulk rail material that we can cut to length, as we need 1. A new 2x8 sleeper part to hold the new rail 2. A new half-sleeper to connect to existing 9V track parts This would obviously be a (...) (19 years ago, 17-May-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.au)
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| | | | | | | Re: Slightly more rational? (was: New Lego Track!) —Gary Quinlan
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| | | | | | | (...) Oh yes! why are you not a marketing consultant for LEGO (...) Thanks Steve, keep the dream alive Gary Memeber #162 (19 years ago, 18-May-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.au)
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| | | | | | | Re: Slightly more rational? (was: New Lego Track!) —Oliver Giesen
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| | | | | | FLEXITRACK ! Yah ! Cheers Oliver "Steve Bliss" <steve.bliss@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:IGMyLJ.1zC1@lugnet.com... (...) (19 years ago, 19-May-05, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | Re: New Lego Track! —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | In lugnet.trains, Gary Quinlan wrote: (snip) See also this (completely unscientific, but interesting) poll: (URL) number 3 means it was set up *quite* a while ago, back when polling was first unveiled on LUGNET. It's gotten 200 votes so far and the (...) (19 years ago, 18-May-05, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.loc.au)
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