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  Permanent outdoor train
 
As I get closer to actually buying a house, I've been doing some more thinking about a future garden railroad. How well suited to a permanent outdoor setup is the Lego track? If it isn't suitable, is the guage close enough to any model railroad (...) (25 years ago, 1-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Permanent outdoor train
 
Frank Filz wrote in message <377B9AD9.2620@minds...ng.com>... (...) LEGO tracks are not fit for outside usage and as far as I know there is no standard gauge close enough to use instead. Duplo trains will do better though :-) Eric (25 years ago, 5-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Permanent outdoor train
 
(...) Eric, is this hard earned experence? Please, share the details. I'd think that they would be OK outside...what happenes? do they rust? I don't think that they'd melt/distort too much over a year or so...Anyone got any real experence? All that (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Permanent outdoor train
 
James Powell wrote in message ... (...) over (...) Sorry, no actual experience. I just *expect* them to rust from rain and distort from sun heat. If you don't care wasting your track over a year or so it may do ofcourse. Eric (25 years ago, 5-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Permanent outdoor train
 
You could do what LL USA did-- lay your own track. Make it the same gauge as 9v, and use O scale rails. Points might get tricky, but I think that would be the way to go. -John (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Permanent outdoor train
 
In article <FEEoGy.50y@lugnet.com>, Eric Brok <brok@fcjsvc.hvu.nl> writes (...) I also have no experience of outdoor models, but I think the main problem is the plastic, and the rail joints. The plastic will suffer in the sun, and the joints will be (...) (25 years ago, 5-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Purity and Re: Permanent outdoor train
 
I'm sure this has been brought up before, but this brings up an important point: is anything/method that any LL does to display a model considered "pure"? It seems unlikely that in laying track in LL Carlsbad that TLG actually made track but rather (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Purity and Re: Permanent outdoor train
 
(...) be (...) no (...) On thing that might deture you from using your LEGO trains outside. Is that the motor might get gunked up. In other words get a lot of dirt in the motor. If you look this site (URL) it mentions that they used 12v trains but (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Permanent outdoor train
 
(...) I heard although can't be sure that LEGOLAND Windsor used G-Scale Track for their trains - therefore it may be possible that their track width may be a different size to the size they sell in sets. I'm currently trying to finish my OO layout (...) (25 years ago, 10-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Permanent outdoor train
 
(...) I measure a skosh over 1.5". BTW, do you mean "Piko"? -John (...) (25 years ago, 10-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Permanent outdoor train
 
(...) Both are valid names in the MR bizgame. (25 years ago, 10-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Permanent outdoor train
 
(...) from PNLTC's show experience, I can attest that one can operate with loops of 90 feet or more using one set of track leads -- all with no noticeable drop in performance. Does this qualify as a "horse's mouth" answer? :) dan parker, PNLTC (25 years ago, 11-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Permanent outdoor train
 
Dan Parker wrote in message ... (...) of (...) in (...) Hm, that's interesting, because I had noticed trains slowing down on the other side of my 4'x6' table. But maybe I'm imagining things, or maybe it's not level enough. Was that with a single (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Permanent outdoor train
 
(...) I have to side with Frank on this one... run a 25 car train with 2 2 motor engines and you will see a speed drop on the far side of a 20 foot loop. (see my apt pictures to see the layout I'm talking about, it's not that big). Perhaps PNLTC is (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Permanent outdoor train
 
In article <378946E9.C506EA83@v...ager.net>, Larry Pieniazek <lar@voyager.net> writes (...) Yes. My model railway experience was that multiple feeds work better. And with outdoor (semi)permanent track there are other factors, such as the (...) (25 years ago, 12-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Permanent outdoor train
 
(...) Well Peco is British and has invented many of the model railway standards. (25 years ago, 18-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Permanent outdoor train
 
(...) c /many of the /some of the less important / and I agree. :-) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Permanent outdoor train
 
Carbon 60 wrote in message <37925E49.E0FC6D5D@b...ot.com>... (...) Not only that, but its the good stuff! Lot better than that Lego stuff. Oops, wrong group! -- Have fun! John AUCTION Page (15 Sealed Space sets sold - more soon!) (URL) Page (URL) (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Permanent outdoor train
 
(...) 'I don't get it.' Back to the subject - the track width is 1.5 inches which puts it between O Gauge and 1 Gauge so you will have to make your own track or modify ready-made track and turnouts. (25 years ago, 19-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Permanent outdoor train
 
(...) Peco invented OO, no? How important is that, really? I'd say HO, N, Mantua couplers, Kaydee couplers and command control are all more important. Peco invented none of those, I don't think. (25 years ago, 20-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Permanent outdoor train
 
(...) Um? By volume, OO is bigger than HO. They Invented 2 different types of OO couplers, and were the first with a large (mass produced) scale track system. (which is a standard throughout the world...go into most good hobbyshops and you will see (...) (25 years ago, 29-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Permanent outdoor train
 
(...) Um, what are you talking about when you say by volume? Are you saying that the number of OO modelers is larger than the number of HO modelers, or what? I don't think so. HO is used everywhere except in the UK and has thousands of different (...) (25 years ago, 31-Jul-99, to lugnet.trains)

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