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> In lugnet.trains, Lawrence Wilkes writes:
> http://www.wilkesworld.co.uk/lego/kt203_first_impressions.htm
> For all of you dying to know how the new trains are packaged, here are a few
> photos of the contents.
It's not the speed of UPS that's impressed me, it's the speed with which
Lawrence got the photos up on his website!!! How'd you do that? I'd love to
know what camera you used.
Judging by the instruction booklet and the label on the side of the box, it
seems to me (I'm only guessing at this stage) that despite the design
differences (with tender: egress at rear/without tender: coalbox at rear,
egress at sides) the two large trains are made from the same kit.
The only difference is that the one with the tender has (obviously) the
extra base and tender parts.
To my mind this gives the builder quite a bit more flexibility over how they
construct their engine than I had first thought - closer to what Lego
describe as 'build your own custom loco'. I'm assuming that the same is true
for the smaller engines.
I'm really looking forward to getting mine now :)
Cheers,
Paul.
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"Paul Cook" <astronut1@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:GCCHJF.BLC@lugnet.com...
>
> It's not the speed of UPS that's impressed me, it's the speed with which
> Lawrence got the photos up on his website!!! How'd you do that? I'd love • to
> know what camera you used.
Camera - Olypus C2000Z (couple years old now) - set on SQ (640x480)
Pop in USB card reader on PC
Quick bit of cropping and automatic enhancement in Photosuite 4
Import to Frontpage - auto thumbnail - 'theme' command automatically applies
page formatting
upload to website
Only a few minutes work
(and benefits of working from home)
regards
lawrence
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In lugnet.trains, Lawrence Wilkes writes:
> http://www.wilkesworld.co.uk/lego/kt203_first_impressions.htm
>
> For all of you dying to know how the new trains are packaged, here are a few
> photos of the contents.
>
> I havent had time to make it up yet
> Will have to wait till tonight
>
> regards
> lawrence
Well, I've got KT204 - the green large one with a tender. The instructions
come in the separate tender / engine boxes, and mine show blue bricks as
well, despite it being a green engine. I presume the blue one was the
original design. (Note: must have a close look at the S@H website, and see
if the blue engine pictures are the only ones that don't look like they've
been re-coloured).
The large engine instruction book contains instructions for both the tender
and closed rear engines, and you can build either - I just did. If you
build the closed rear one, it includes some of the coloured bricks which
would otherwise go in the tender.
Whichever you build, you have a few parts specific to the other left over.
In the case of the closed rear engine, that's a pair of 1x6x1 black arches
and a few ordinary bricks left. In the case of the tender engine, that's
the 2x1x3 panels and the 2x1x3 inverted buttress slopes from the coal scuttle.
The bag of coloured bricks contains some black ones too, including the front
dish. I presume these are (some of?) the parts common to both the large and
small engines. I wouldn't hold out too much hope of being able to build the
small engine from the large one. Someone would need to buy both to get both
sets of instructions to be sure though.
Oh - one other thing. Depending which of the large engines you make, the
sticker for the controls goes on a different brick. For the closed rear
engine, it goes on a coloured 1x6, but it goes on a 2x6 on the tender engine
(the 1x6 then goes in the tender). All the other stickers go on the same
bricks.
It looks good when made up - and you don't really notice the bogeys
underneath. That, and it's well worth the money if only for train parts.
Now, if all the parts are the same, I'm just wondering why it costs more to
add a tender to the small engine than to the large one. Profit margins I
suppose, but it comes across as a bit odd when you work out the prices.
Jason J Railton
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In lugnet.trains, Paul Cook wrote:
> > In lugnet.trains, Lawrence Wilkes writes:
> > http://www.wilkesworld.co.uk/lego/kt203_first_impressions.htm
> > For all of you dying to know how the new trains are packaged, here are a few
> > photos of the contents.
>
> It's not the speed of UPS that's impressed me, it's the speed with which
> Lawrence got the photos up on his website!!! How'd you do that? I'd love to
> know what camera you used.
>
> Judging by the instruction booklet and the label on the side of the box, it
> seems to me (I'm only guessing at this stage) that despite the design
> differences (with tender: egress at rear/without tender: coalbox at rear,
> egress at sides) the two large trains are made from the same kit.
Isn't it as likely that the tender uses some pieces from the base kit
(either 3740 or 3741), and some pieces from the tender kit (3742) are used
in the modified engine?
Steve
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> In lugnet.trains, Steve Bliss writes:
> Isn't it as likely that the tender uses some pieces from the base kit
> (either 3740 or 3741), and some pieces from the tender kit (3742) are used
> in the modified engine?
Yup, you're probably right. I was just guessing. Still, I shouldn't have to
guess much longer since my large engine with tender should arrive in the
post tomorrow :)
I've ordered the lighting set too, and it will be interesting to see how
that is designed to fit into the loco.
Cheers,
Paul.
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In lugnet.trains, Lawrence Wilkes writes:
> http://www.wilkesworld.co.uk/lego/kt203_first_impressions.htm
>
> For all of you dying to know how the new trains are packaged, here are a few
> photos of the contents.
>
> I havent had time to make it up yet
> Will have to wait till tonight
Lawrence.are the instructions to add the light kit alreading included?(i
know you have to order the kit seperatly but i have a ton of lights and i'm
hoping to just use those)
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In lugnet.trains, Jason J. Railton writes:
> In lugnet.trains, Lawrence Wilkes writes:
> > http://www.wilkesworld.co.uk/lego/kt203_first_impressions.htm
> >
> > For all of you dying to know how the new trains are packaged, here are a few
> > photos of the contents.
> >
> > I havent had time to make it up yet
> > Will have to wait till tonight
> >
> > regards
> > lawrence
>
> Well, I've got KT204 - the green large one with a tender. The instructions
> come in the separate tender / engine boxes, and mine show blue bricks as
> well, despite it being a green engine. I presume the blue one was the
> original design. (Note: must have a close look at the S@H website, and see
> if the blue engine pictures are the only ones that don't look like they've
> been re-coloured).
I wonder it thats why the site says backordered, will deliver on March 25?
I'm ordering grey soon!
Josh
>
> The large engine instruction book contains instructions for both the tender
> and closed rear engines, and you can build either - I just did. If you
> build the closed rear one, it includes some of the coloured bricks which
> would otherwise go in the tender.
>
> Whichever you build, you have a few parts specific to the other left over.
> In the case of the closed rear engine, that's a pair of 1x6x1 black arches
> and a few ordinary bricks left. In the case of the tender engine, that's
> the 2x1x3 panels and the 2x1x3 inverted buttress slopes from the coal scuttle.
>
> The bag of coloured bricks contains some black ones too, including the front
> dish. I presume these are (some of?) the parts common to both the large and
> small engines. I wouldn't hold out too much hope of being able to build the
> small engine from the large one. Someone would need to buy both to get both
> sets of instructions to be sure though.
>
> Oh - one other thing. Depending which of the large engines you make, the
> sticker for the controls goes on a different brick. For the closed rear
> engine, it goes on a coloured 1x6, but it goes on a 2x6 on the tender engine
> (the 1x6 then goes in the tender). All the other stickers go on the same
> bricks.
>
> It looks good when made up - and you don't really notice the bogeys
> underneath. That, and it's well worth the money if only for train parts.
>
> Now, if all the parts are the same, I'm just wondering why it costs more to
> add a tender to the small engine than to the large one. Profit margins I
> suppose, but it comes across as a bit odd when you work out the prices.
>
> Jason J Railton
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"Chris Leach" <cleach@mediaone.net> wrote in message
news:GCDEAz.E3z@lugnet.com...
> Lawrence.are the instructions to add the light kit alreading included?(i
> know you have to order the kit seperatly but i have a ton of lights and • i'm
> hoping to just use those)
No. Lighting instructions are not included
And at first sight, there isnt any obvious place where the light would go.
If you look at http://www.wilkesworld.co.uk/lego/images/P4250746.JPG
you will see the front of the train clearly.
The light on the top isnt replacable as it sits on top of 2 slopes in the
colour of the train - though you could run a conductor plate along the top
The two lights on the front could be connected by one of those light
conducting/splitter bricks that come in some train sets.
But the lighting kit has just one light and that big chrome reflector
Therefore it seems that you would just remove the two lights at the bottom
and simply place that light and reflector in the middle.
regards
lawrence
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"Josh Baakko" <shi_web@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:GCDKJM.2DG@lugnet.com...
>
> I wonder it thats why the site says backordered, will deliver on March 25?
> I'm ordering grey soon!
> Josh
It is only the US site that says back ordered - MAY 25th.
The European sites still say available.
regards
lawrence
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In lugnet.trains, Steve Bliss writes:
> Isn't it as likely that the tender uses some pieces from the base kit
> (either 3740 or 3741), and some pieces from the tender kit (3742) are used
> in the modified engine?
Nope - you can build the tender without opening the engine box. It only
uses parts from the tender box and the colour kit polybag.
Jason J Railton
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"Jason J. Railton" <j.j.railton@cwcom.net> wrote in message
news:GCEA4y.IEH@lugnet.com...
> In lugnet.trains, Steve Bliss writes:
> > Isn't it as likely that the tender uses some pieces from the base kit
> > (either 3740 or 3741), and some pieces from the tender kit (3742) are • used
> > in the modified engine?
>
> Nope - you can build the tender without opening the engine box. It only
> uses parts from the tender box and the colour kit polybag.
It works like this:
3740 Small loco
3741 Large loco
3742 Tender
3743 Blue parts
3744 Green parts
3745 Black parts
3746 Brown parts
3747 *DARK* Grey parts
Either version of the small loco can be built from 3740 plus a colour pack.
It works the same for the large loco using 3741 and the tender using 3742.
The reason for having black (plus white, dark grey and trans whatever!) bits
in the colour bag is because they're common to all trains (e.g. boiler front
'dish', cab roof parts, etc.). It may also be the case that some parts might
be needed for the loco _OR_ tender depending upon version, but NOT both...
Has anyone with a tender train built the non-tender loco with the tender
still intact?
Some common parts (e.g. minifig dresses used to support the boiler, etc.)
are NOT in the colour bag. This might just be so that the loco box isn't too
empty! OTOH, it might indicate that more sets are on the way, as per an
e-mail I received from LEGO Europe: "There are lots more to come too, so
keep checking the website!" :-)
Just Building .oO
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In lugnet.trains, Jon D. Hayward writes:
> "Jason J. Railton" <j.j.railton@cwcom.net> wrote:
> > Nope - you can build the tender without opening the engine box. It only
> > uses parts from the tender box and the colour kit polybag.
> ...
> It may also be the case that some parts might
> be needed for the loco _OR_ tender depending upon version, but NOT both...
> Has anyone with a tender train built the non-tender loco with the tender
> still intact?
> ...
Good point. No, you can't. The tender uses some black pieces (the rear
panel for instance) and red lights from the colour bag, as well as
(obviously) several of the coloured bricks (1x2s, a 1x6, 1x1s with handles).
You have to rob these back off the tender to build the non-tender loco.
Jason J Railton
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In lugnet.trains, Lawrence Wilkes writes:
>
> "Josh Baakko" <shi_web@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:GCDKJM.2DG@lugnet.com...
>
> >
> > I wonder it thats why the site says backordered, will deliver on March 25?
> > I'm ordering grey soon!
> > Josh
>
> It is only the US site that says back ordered - MAY 25th.
>
> The European sites still say available.
>
> regards
> lawrence
I ment to put May, Its amazing that it's only back ordered in the US
Josh
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Josh Baakko wrote:
> In lugnet.trains, Lawrence Wilkes writes:
> >
> > "Josh Baakko" <shi_web@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:GCDKJM.2DG@lugnet.com...
> >
> > >
> > > I wonder it thats why the site says backordered, will deliver on March 25?
> > > I'm ordering grey soon!
> > > Josh
> >
> > It is only the US site that says back ordered - MAY 25th.
> >
> > The European sites still say available.
> >
> > regards
> > lawrence
>
> I ment to put May, Its amazing that it's only back ordered in the US
> Josh
And Canada... It must be in a container on a ship someplace...
TFM
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In lugnet.trains, Dean Husby writes:
> Josh Baakko wrote:
> > In lugnet.trains, Lawrence Wilkes writes:
> > > "Josh Baakko" <shi_web@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:GCDKJM.2DG@lugnet.com...
> > > > I wonder it thats why the site says backordered, will deliver on March • 25?
> > > > I'm ordering grey soon!
> > > > Josh
> > > It is only the US site that says back ordered - MAY 25th.
> > > The European sites still say available.
> > > regards
> > > lawrence
> >
> > I ment to put May, Its amazing that it's only back ordered in the US
> > Josh
>
> And Canada... It must be in a container on a ship someplace...
Or we Europeans have ordered too much stuff after the prices and pictures
have appeared at Lego.com. ;-)
I myself have ordered not more than 4 copies, but nearly every friend around
has done the same. If you know xTI@AN: that guy has even bought 10
different copies, and he promised he will order the left 10 soon...
Regards
Ben
BTW: are those sets in the Lugnet database already? I have to put them in my
owners list.
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> In lugnet.trains, Lawrence Wilkes writes:
>
> > "Chris Leach" <cleach@mediaone.net> wrote in message
> > news:GCDEAz.E3z@lugnet.com...
> > Lawrence.are the instructions to add the light kit alreading included?(i
> > know you have to order the kit seperatly but i have a ton of lights and
> > i'm hoping to just use those)
>
> No. Lighting instructions are not included
>
> And at first sight, there isnt any obvious place where the light would go.
My Big Black Loco with Tender, plus my light set arrived late yesterday. The
light set consists of a standard train light brick, a sliver reflector, an
ordinary 1x2 black brick, a 9v cable (20cm?) and instructions on how to
build it into all of the new Locos.
A pleasant surprise: the set is designed to replace the single light on top
of the boiler (and uses the two smallest 'plate' stickers from the Loco's
sticker set to disguise the light brick). The instructions get you to remove
the rod from the left side of the boiler and run the cable along the top of
the boiler, through the two clips and in through the front window hole on
the cab, then it doubles back under the boiler. I didn't particularly like
this design (but that's the beauty of Lego - you can change it so easily) so
I replaced one of the 1x2 slopes on top of the boiler with a 1x1 brick to
make a hole directly behind the smoke stack, and created a passage straight
down through the boiler. The supplied cable was now far too long, so I
replaced it with a 10cm one from my Mindstorms set.
This allowed me room to customise the inside of the cab, and to fit the
motor at the rear of the Loco (as opposed to the front as per the instructions).
If you've got plenty of lights, I don't think the light set is worth it, so
I'll see if I can post a scan of the light instructions, and some pics of my
customised Loco on the net in the next few days.
Cheers,
Paul.
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In lugnet.trains, Reinhard "Ben" Beneke writes:
>
> Or we Europeans have ordered too much stuff after the prices and pictures
> have appeared at Lego.com. ;-)
> I myself have ordered not more than 4 copies, but nearly every friend around
> has done the same. If you know xTI@AN: that guy has even bought 10
> different copies, and he promised he will order the left 10 soon...
Jeepers Creepers!! Can you leave half a dozen availabe for the Americas??
Please, please? We would like to have some too!
Katie
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In lugnet.trains, Katie Dokken writes:
> In lugnet.trains, Reinhard "Ben" Beneke writes:
> >
> > Or we Europeans have ordered too much stuff after the prices and pictures
> > have appeared at Lego.com. ;-)
> > I myself have ordered not more than 4 copies, but nearly every friend around
> > has done the same. If you know xTI@AN: that guy has even bought 10
> > different copies, and he promised he will order the left 10 soon...
>
> Jeepers Creepers!! Can you leave half a dozen availabe for the Americas??
> Please, please? We would like to have some too!
>
> Katie
Ben - how many do you think we can shift through e-Bay before their
backorders start being filled in America? ;-)
And can any of you continentals beat 10:00 GMT 25/04/2001 (09:00 UK local time)?
Jason J Railton
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In lugnet.trains, Jason J. Railton writes:
> In lugnet.trains, Katie Dokken writes:
> > In lugnet.trains, Reinhard "Ben" Beneke writes:
> > >
> > > Or we Europeans have ordered too much stuff after the prices and pictures
> > > have appeared at Lego.com. ;-)
> > > I myself have ordered not more than 4 copies, but nearly every friend around
> > > has done the same. If you know xTI@AN: that guy has even bought 10
> > > different copies, and he promised he will order the left 10 soon...
> >
> > Jeepers Creepers!! Can you leave half a dozen availabe for the Americas??
> > Please, please? We would like to have some too!
> >
> > Katie
>
> Ben - how many do you think we can shift through e-Bay before their
> backorders start being filled in America? ;-)
>
> And can any of you continentals beat 10:00 GMT 25/04/2001 (09:00 UK local time)?
>
> Jason J Railton
You notice the page's delivery date moves back every day, we have a month
delay to get one, from the day you order, so if you order on the 30th of
April, you'll get it after the 30th of May.
Josh
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In lugnet.trains, Paul Cook writes:
> I'll see if I can post a scan of the light instructions,
Hi Paul,
having recieived my locos also meanwhile, I have uploaded the scans of the
sheet to:
http://f24.parsimony.net/forum61776/messages/15059.htm
I like the way you may add the lights to your locomotive and I'll certainly
make it the very same way on all of them.
Anyone else noticed on page 2 where it shows all available colours listed -
there is also a field saying "New/Neu" but without images? Who else feels
that more colours will appear in that place soon; red, yellow, tan, orange,
white, . . .
Also, there might be an easy way for TLC to bring out customized wagons.
They could reuse the colour bags found so far (#3743-3747) and pack them
along with other new pieces and instructions. As a result, you'd get five
wagon combinations only releasing one new set. I think that's the plan of
expanding this line - there IS more to come soon!!
Sorry if this has already been posted, I haven't read the entire thread yet
- had to build a few trains and I'm not even done yet whit the package I got
in this morning :) ...
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