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    Re: Scans are back! —Horst Lehner
   Hello Kevin, hello everybody, I certainly appreciate the enormous amount of work that you and others put into brickshelf over the years, and the value this has created for the LEGO community. This is why I found it very disturbing to see the LEGO(r) (...) (22 years ago, 14-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
   
        Re: Scans are back! —Dan Boger
     (...) Personally, I think Kevin did the right thing. And he gets extra points from doing it on his own. Why do you think that he should have waited for LEGO to complain? The fact that he probably _could_ get away with it doesn't mean he _should_ (...) (22 years ago, 14-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
    
         Re: Scans are back! —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) I agree, and further, the people here jiggling his elbow (including, regrettably, me) while he was engaged in what had to be delicate negotiations probably weren't helping matters with their thoughts, analysis and suggestions although surely (...) (22 years ago, 14-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
     
          Re: Scans are back! —Horst Lehner
      Hello Larry, hello everybody, (...) I do understand by now what was going on in the last few weeks, and why. However, there hasn't been much response to my second point, which was about Brickshelf L.L.C. claiming all rights with uploaded scans: (...) (22 years ago, 16-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
     
          Re: Scans are back! —Mark Chittenden
      I'm not a lawyer, but I understand this to mean: Anything uploaded to Brickshelf, bet it scans, digital pics, gif files, text files, whatever, becomes property of Brickshelf in the regards that Brickshelf can do whatever with those files (print (...) (22 years ago, 16-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)  
     
          Re: Scans are back! —Horst Lehner
       Hello Mark, (...) Well, if that is what it means, this certainly differs from what I understood when I read: (...) because with property I am usually free to even sell it. Also, since we are talking intellectual property here, I thought it would (...) (22 years ago, 17-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
     
          Re: Scans are back! —Kevin Loch
      (...) Only materials submitted to the Brickshelf _Library_ become property of Brickshelf. Materials uploaded to the _Gallery_ remain with the original owner. This really isn't complicated, you just can't control what Brickshelf does with scans you (...) (22 years ago, 19-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
    
         Re: Scans are back! —Horst Lehner
     Hello Dan, (...) Actually, I don't think that. (...) I agree. (...) I understand that. I don't see, however, for now, how the bill is going to be paid for from now on. But I guess Kevin has an idea ... I think I have understood more of the (...) (22 years ago, 16-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
   
        Re: Scans are back! —Richard Marchetti
     (...) I think Kevin gets this privilege de facto because he is the one maintaining the library. That some other person(s) should have a backed up copy of the library would probably be prudent and has hopefully already been accomplished. (...) I (...) (22 years ago, 14-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
    
         Re: Scans are back! —Horst Lehner
     Hello Richard, (...) I have no problem with Kevin deciding alone what to do with his copy of the scans. However, trying to exclude people who contributed the scans, which is what I understand from the sentence: is not something I will accept for the (...) (22 years ago, 16-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
    
         Re: Scans are back! —Horst Lehner
      Oops, there was something missing in my posting here: (...) (22 years ago, 17-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
   
        Re: Scans are back! —Kevin Loch
   (...) That is required to prevent claims from those who submit material to us. It is standard business practice (think of contests where people submit entries). To be clear, yes it does mean that you give up any and all rights to scans you submit to (...) (22 years ago, 14-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)  
   
        Re: Scans are back! —Horst Lehner
   Hello Kevin, (...) Which types of claims are you talking here? I can see that submitting does not GIVE them any rights above and beyond the ones they have, so they cannot CLAIM anything. But how could they claim any rights, from submitting to (...) (22 years ago, 16-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
   
        Re: Scans are back! —Kevin Loch
   (...) Read what I wrote carefully. It adresses material *submitted* to the Library. That means you have no control over what Brickshelf does with it's copies of what you submit. In other words, you can't revoke your submission, or suddenly decide (...) (22 years ago, 16-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
   
        Re: Scans are back! —Horst Lehner
   Hello Kevin, (...) I am glad to hear this from you directly. Maybe the whole issue here is that English is not my mother tongue, so I didn't get the proper meaning of the jurisdictional terms. How will you handle scans that have been uploaded before (...) (22 years ago, 17-Mar-02, to lugnet.publish)
 

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