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Hey all,
A couple of nights ago while trying to maximize the number of 2x4 bricks I
could fit into a cup in a far easier format than the previous record. I found
that I had actually beat the old record by quite a bit. The new record is 149.
I hope you find this usefull.
OnDrew
p.s. post mod instructions:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=64667
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In lugnet.general, Ondrew Hartigan wrote:
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Hey all,
A couple of nights ago while trying to maximize the number of 2x4 bricks I
could fit into a cup in a far easier format than the previous record. I found
that I had actually beat the old record by quite a bit. The new record is
149.
I hope you find this usefull.
OnDrew
p.s. post mod instructions:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=64667
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Ondrew,
I just tried this. Pretty cool technique, except that I think you only get 125
(plus 8 1x4s) this way. It looks like you went two layers of brick too tall at
the top, (steps 15+16 must be omitted) so you counted an extra 24 2x4s that
don’t actually fit into the cup. At least they don’t fit into the cups I’ve
been buying!
Still, it’s a nice technique because you’re dealing with one solid chunk of
brick which is probably easier to build and memorize than the layered disc
techniques.
Note: You have to wedge this down into the cup to get it in, but it fits nicely
and the cap does snap on.
- Chris.
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It looks like you went two layers of brick too tall at the top, (steps 15+16
must be omitted)<<
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I wondered about that also. I have only been able to get 15 layers plus the top
4 2x4’s in the lid.
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In lugnet.general, Chris Phillips wrote:
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In lugnet.general, Ondrew Hartigan wrote:
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Hey all,
A couple of nights ago while trying to maximize the number of 2x4 bricks I
could fit into a cup in a far easier format than the previous record. I
found that I had actually beat the old record by quite a bit. The new record
is 149.
I hope you find this usefull.
OnDrew
p.s. post mod instructions:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=64667
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Ondrew,
I just tried this. Pretty cool technique, except that I think you only get
125 (plus 8 1x4s) this way. It looks like you went two layers of brick too
tall at the top, (steps 15+16 must be omitted) so you counted an extra 24
2x4s that don’t actually fit into the cup. At least they don’t fit into the
cups I’ve been buying!
Still, it’s a nice technique because you’re dealing with one solid chunk of
brick which is probably easier to build and memorize than the layered disc
techniques.
Note: You have to wedge this down into the cup to get it in, but it fits
nicely and the cap does snap on.
- Chris.
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I understand that you would like the cup to close but it is not a requirement at
any of the stores that I have been to. I sould know, I work at one. The only
rule is the lid has to be able to touch the cup in some way, shape, or form.
ondrew
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In lugnet.general, Ondrew Hartigan wrote:
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In lugnet.general, Chris Phillips wrote:
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In lugnet.general, Ondrew Hartigan wrote:
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Hey all,
A couple of nights ago while trying to maximize the number of 2x4 bricks I
could fit into a cup in a far easier format than the previous record. I
found that I had actually beat the old record by quite a bit. The new
record is 149.
I hope you find this usefull.
OnDrew
p.s. post mod instructions:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=64667
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Ondrew,
I just tried this. Pretty cool technique, except that I think you only get
125 (plus 8 1x4s) this way. It looks like you went two layers of brick too
tall at the top, (steps 15+16 must be omitted) so you counted an extra 24
2x4s that don’t actually fit into the cup. At least they don’t fit into the
cups I’ve been buying!
Still, it’s a nice technique because you’re dealing with one solid chunk of
brick which is probably easier to build and memorize than the layered disc
techniques.
Note: You have to wedge this down into the cup to get it in, but it fits
nicely and the cap does snap on.
- Chris.
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I understand that you would like the cup to close but it is not a requirement
at any of the stores that I have been to. I sould know, I work at one. The
only rule is the lid has to be able to touch the cup in some way, shape, or
form. ondrew
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Ahh, changing the rules on us, eh? Actually I was aware of this. I’ve been
told by one of the sales clerks that I am the only person who he’s ever seen
trying to get the lids to actually snap shut. They always offer to tape the
lids on anyway.
I can add one more layer and still get the lid to overlap, but with that final
layer added there’s a 1/4 inch gap all the way around the edge. I still don’t
see (short of punching the indent out of the bottom of the cup) how you’re
making contact with all of that brick in there. Or is that the “employee
discount?”
- Chris.
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In lugnet.general, Chris Phillips wrote:
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In lugnet.general, Ondrew Hartigan wrote:
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I understand that you would like the cup to close but it is not a
requirement at any of the stores that I have been to. I sould know, I work
at one. The only rule is the lid has to be able to touch the cup in some
way, shape, or form. ondrew
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Ahh, changing the rules on us, eh? Actually I was aware of this. I’ve been
told by one of the sales clerks that I am the only person who he’s ever seen
trying to get the lids to actually snap shut. They always offer to tape the
lids on anyway.
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Under the modified rules, I was easily able to get 152 2x4s into a cup by adding
one more layer to my stacked disc technique. The lid doesn’t snap shut, but it
overlaps with very slight downward pressure. It is also not necessary to force
the discs into the cup, they sit neatly in there without deforming the plastic
or scratching the inside of the cup. Of course, there is still plenty of room
around the edges for lots of smaller pieces. Here are the details of my
technique:
-Chris.
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In lugnet.general, Chris Phillips wrote:
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In lugnet.general, Chris Phillips wrote:
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In lugnet.general, Ondrew Hartigan wrote:
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I understand that you would like the cup to close but it is not a
requirement at any of the stores that I have been to. I sould know, I work
at one. The only rule is the lid has to be able to touch the cup in some
way, shape, or form. ondrew
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Ahh, changing the rules on us, eh? Actually I was aware of this. I’ve been
told by one of the sales clerks that I am the only person who he’s ever seen
trying to get the lids to actually snap shut. They always offer to tape the
lids on anyway.
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Under the modified rules, I was easily able to get 152 2x4s into a cup by
adding one more layer to my stacked disc technique. The lid doesn’t snap
shut, but it overlaps with very slight downward pressure. It is also not
necessary to force the discs into the cup, they sit neatly in there without
deforming the plastic or scratching the inside of the cup. Of course, there
is still plenty of room around the edges for lots of smaller pieces. Here
are the details of my technique:
-Chris.
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i just tryed this. it works really well and is very fast however the new record
is 156. you can fit 4 additinal bricks in on row 3. =) ondrew
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In lugnet.general, Ondrew Hartigan wrote:
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i just tryed this. it works really well and is very fast however the new
record is 156. you can fit 4 additinal bricks in on row 3. =) ondrew
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I knew I missed something, because I added more bricks to the top level than my
previous personal best had increased by. I went back and checked my original
method and sure enough, found that I could fit 163 2x4s in the cup, again
assuming that the lid doesn’t need to snap on:
This method is a bit more tightly packed, and you do have to press down slightly
to get the bottom disc into the cup. If you omit the top and bottom brick from
that disc you eliminate that problem. The top (largest) disc is also a bit
tight, but still fits.
I’d still like to see someone top that, though. Keep pushing the envelope,
people!
-Chris.
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The only rule is the lid has to be able to touch the cup in some way<<
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Oh foolish me, actually trying to get the lid to snap shut.
150+ bricks per cup kinda has a nice ring to it................
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In lugnet.general, Chris Phillips wrote:
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In lugnet.general, Ondrew Hartigan wrote:
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i just tryed this. it works really well and is very fast however the new
record is 156. you can fit 4 additinal bricks in on row 3. =) ondrew
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I knew I missed something, because I added more bricks to the top level than
my previous personal best had increased by. I went back and checked my
original method and sure enough, found that I could fit 163 2x4s in the cup,
again assuming that the lid doesn’t need to snap on:
This method is a bit more tightly packed, and you do have to press down
slightly to get the bottom disc into the cup. If you omit the top and bottom
brick from that disc you eliminate that problem. The top (largest) disc is
also a bit tight, but still fits.
I’d still like to see someone top that, though. Keep pushing the envelope,
people!
-Chris.
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Well I would like to congratulate you for taking this challenge. This after all
is for the benefit of everyone. I would like to still keep record by saying you
can add 2 additional bricks to the second row to make it look like the first row
diamond shape. So the record is 165!
OnDrew
P.s. this was fun! Want to take the small cup on now?
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In lugnet.general, Ondrew Hartigan wrote:
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In lugnet.general, Chris Phillips wrote:
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In lugnet.general, Ondrew Hartigan wrote:
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i just tryed this. it works really well and is very fast however the new
record is 156. you can fit 4 additinal bricks in on row 3. =) ondrew
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I knew I missed something, because I added more bricks to the top level than
my previous personal best had increased by. I went back and checked my
original method and sure enough, found that I could fit 163 2x4s in the cup,
again assuming that the lid doesn’t need to snap on:
This method is a bit more tightly packed, and you do have to press down
slightly to get the bottom disc into the cup. If you omit the top and
bottom brick from that disc you eliminate that problem. The top (largest)
disc is also a bit tight, but still fits.
I’d still like to see someone top that, though. Keep pushing the envelope,
people!
-Chris.
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Well I would like to congratulate you for taking this challenge. This after
all is for the benefit of everyone. I would like to still keep record by
saying you can add 2 additional bricks to the second row to make it look like
the first row diamond shape. So the record is 165!
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When I add two more bricks to the second level it deforms the cup pretty badly,
but I suppose it fits. So add another brick to the center row of level 4
(Blue/White section in the center of my latest picture) and you get 166 2x4’s
into a slightly mangled PaB cup.
I think I’ll personally stick to 163 or 164 bricks (my 163 + latest level 4 mod)
when I’m buying PaB cups. I try not to trash the cups since they make such good
storage containers, and they are easier to pack when the brick isn’t constantly
trying to escape. Plus, it’s nice to have a little breathing room left over to
fill with smaller parts.
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P.s. this was fun! Want to take the small cup on now?
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I don’t have any small cups, so I can’t try this one. But if you’re trying to
maximize your brick/buck ratio, the small cups look like a losing bet since they
are 1/2 the volume for more than 1/2 the price.
- Chris.
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In lugnet.general, Ondrew Hartigan wrote:
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I understand that you would like the cup to close but it is not a requirement
at any of the stores that I have been to. I sould know, I work at one. The
only rule is the lid has to be able to touch the cup in some way, shape, or
form. ondrew
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I’m kind of kidding here:
Can you place the lid *under* the cup-- still touching the cup-- and proceed to
stack the bricks much much taller than the top edge of the cup...say 3, 4, 5
feet tall, or as tall as the store ceiling? Strictly, the lid is touching the
cup. Again, just being a tad silly.
Now, who can balance a stacked pole of bricks?
Or, maybe you can build a sphere or cube out of the bricks and embed the cup
inside the build? Still, somehow maintaining that the cup and lid are strictly
touching each other “...in some way, shape, or form.” ;-)
I haven’t been following this thread, but is there also a “rule” that says
bricks may not protrude in height beyond the upper lip of the cup?
To All: Cool challenges for which you all have found clever solutions!
later,
James Mathis
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In lugnet.general, James Mathis wrote:
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In lugnet.general, Ondrew Hartigan wrote:
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I understand that you would like the cup to close but it is not a
requirement at any of the stores that I have been to. I sould know, I work
at one. The only rule is the lid has to be able to touch the cup in some
way, shape, or form. ondrew
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I’m kind of kidding here:
Can you place the lid *under* the cup-- still touching the cup-- and proceed
to stack the bricks much much taller than the top edge of the cup...say 3, 4,
5 feet tall, or as tall as the store ceiling? Strictly, the lid is touching
the cup.
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You might just as well purchase the small cup, in that case... :-P
Mark
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In lugnet.general, Chris Phillips wrote:
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In lugnet.general, Ondrew Hartigan wrote:
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i just tryed this. it works really well and is very fast however the new
record is 156. you can fit 4 additinal bricks in on row 3. =) ondrew
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I knew I missed something, because I added more bricks to the top level than
my previous personal best had increased by. I went back and checked my
original method and sure enough, found that I could fit 163 2x4s in the cup,
again assuming that the lid doesn’t need to snap on:
This method is a bit more tightly packed, and you do have to press down
slightly to get the bottom disc into the cup. If you omit the top and bottom
brick from that disc you eliminate that problem. The top (largest) disc is
also a bit tight, but still fits.
I’d still like to see someone top that, though. Keep pushing the envelope,
people!
-Chris.
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I tried this method and it takes a little time, but it works very well. As a
control I packed 2x4s into a cup without any assemble and I could only fit 103
bricks, so assembling makes a significant difference.
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In lugnet.general, Ondrew Hartigan wrote:
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In lugnet.general, Chris Phillips wrote:
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In lugnet.general, Ondrew Hartigan wrote:
...I could fit 163 2x4s in the cup,
again assuming that the lid doesn’t need to snap on:
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Chrispy/PickABrick/1pab163.jpg
This method is a bit more tightly packed, and you do have to press down
slightly to get the bottom disc into the cup. If you omit the top and
bottom brick from that disc you eliminate that problem. The top (largest)
disc is also a bit tight, but still fits.
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Well I would like to congratulate you for taking this challenge. This after
all is for the benefit of everyone. I would like to still keep record by
saying you can add 2 additional bricks to the second row to make it look
like the first row diamond shape. So the record is 165!
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I know this thread died months ago, but we got a store in the Seattle area a few
weeks ago and I finally got to try it out. And, of course, this subject is
always of interest.
I got 169 2x4 bricks into a cup today, using a slightly
modified version of the pattern mentioned. And the best part: old grey!
There wasn’t much room to spare, though- I only managed to add 18 1x2 technic
bricks around the bottom and 6 1x4x2 fences squeezed into perimeter crannies.
And those fences were pretty well crammed in.
Note that you have to rotate
the bottom two levels 90 degrees from each other so that they warp the cup in
the same direction. But this pattern doesn’t seem to warp the cup any more than
the previous pattern.
Also, you can get more studs’ worth of bricks if you
use other geometries. Using 2x4, 2x2, 1x2, and 1x4 bricks, I got the stud-count
equivalent of 182.5 2x4 bricks into a cup a couple of weeks ago. I probably
could have gotten another 2 or so in if they had 1x1 bricks. The pattern was
studs up, so obviously totally different from this. Unfortunately, I didn’t
document it.
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