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When the United States collapsed it took much of the new highway system with it.
Pacific Northwest based Kenworth adapted to the change and abandoned truck
building for planes.
Along with Boeing Syndicate, Kenworth grew to be one of the main plane builders
for Pacifica. Its line of flying boats was utilized by the military and pirates
alike.
The FB7 Berserker:
Click the image for the rest of the pics.
Along with Crimson Skies this MOC was heavily inspired by Porco Rosso and
Nausicaa. Big thanks to Tom Rafert for the Kenworth idea.
Tell me what you think!
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In lugnet.announce.moc, Jon Palmer wrote:
Even though youve shown me preview pics, it *still* took me a minute or two to
figure out which way was the front. Awesome. :P
--SteveR
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Very nice plane Jon!
Double cockpit, wow! And it seems the crew can easily spot whats following
them. Heu, no, whats theyre targeting and following. Yep, figuring which way
this plane flies is surprising! I guess I have this feeling mainly because of
the wings shape. Does the chief engineer/designer at Kenworth always drive his
car backwards? Do you?
Cheers,
JP.
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In lugnet.announce.moc, Jon Palmer wrote:
Very unique and very cool shape. I wouldnt have tried such a style own my on,
its inspiring to see that it works!
And congratulations for the photo work, too. Its definitely worth the extra
effort.
Happy building!
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Click the image for the rest of the pics.
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http://asphodel.org/bsv/?path=jpalmer/CrimsonSkies/Berserker
Jon,
This is a very weird design, but you make it work. The double-cockpit is always
a chancey move, and this one works well. And the plane is definately not
something Id want to run into - that giant gattling on the front looks like
nothing to mess around with.
Bravo!
(btw - wheres the rest of the alphabet project? /runs)
-Lenny
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In lugnet.space, Steve Runnels wrote:
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In lugnet.announce.moc, Jon Palmer wrote:
Even though youve shown me preview pics, it *still* took me a minute or two
to figure out which way was the front. Awesome. :P
--SteveR
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Youre all wrong...it flies sideways and sort of up and to the left.
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In lugnet.space, Jean-Pascal Rignault wrote:
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Very nice plane Jon!
Double cockpit, wow! And it seems the crew can easily spot whats following
them. Heu, no, whats theyre targeting and following. Yep, figuring which
way this plane flies is surprising! I guess I have this feeling mainly
because of the wings shape. Does the chief engineer/designer at Kenworth
always drive his car backwards? Do you?
Cheers,
JP.
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I might have over done the ambiguity on this one, but one of my goals for mocs
is to get that exact reaction.
Which way does it go?
And I do actually love to go really fast in reverse gear sometimes, by the way!
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In lugnet.space, Daniel Hamann wrote:
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Very unique and very cool shape. I wouldnt have tried such a style own my
on, its inspiring to see that it works!
And congratulations for the photo work, too. Its definitely worth the extra
effort.
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Thanks Daniel. I was actually really upset with how the photos came out this
time. My Sony butchers red and one of my lights blew out when I was shooting.
So good to see somebody likes the pics.
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In lugnet.space, Leonard Hoffman wrote:
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http://asphodel.org/bsv/?path=jpalmer/CrimsonSkies/Berserker
Jon,
This is a very weird design, but you make it work. The double-cockpit is
always a chancey move, and this one works well. And the plane is definately
not something Id want to run into - that giant gattling on the front looks
like nothing to mess around with.
Bravo!
(btw - wheres the rest of the alphabet project? /runs)
-Lenny
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Thanks Comrade.
I love how the double cockpit came out. And after I made it I even found a P-51
variant on the web with 2 side-by-side cockpits as well...the P-82. I had no
idea it existed.
(The above plane is flying to the left by the way)
And as for alphabet...lemme try to get back into SW again and Ill do something
soon.
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In lugnet.announce.moc, Jon Palmer wrote:
> When the United States collapsed it took much of the new highway system with
> it. Pacific Northwest based Kenworth adapted to the change and abandoned
> truck building for planes.
Dude! This is really cool. I love the sleekness and snotlessness... you're a
true master it it, Jon. The angles are really neat, and I like the use of
binocular pieces to mount the guns. Seems kind of odd to have everything
backwards, though, with the prop in the back. But I guess that was the point,
right? ;)
-JHK
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In lugnet.space, John Henry Kruer wrote:
> I love the sleekness and snotlessness...
AHEM. Definently not snotlessness...
I ment studlessness.
:)
-JHK
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The FB7 Berserker:
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Okay! Ive really enjoyed following all the Crimson Skies models being built.
I have to say, this is my favorite. Of what Ive seen of the game, youve
really captured the essence of the theme. Are the game creators aware of the
models bieng built with lego?
By the way, Im only responding to your post because Im part of your clique and
am therefore obligated to praise your work ;)
Felix
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In lugnet.space, Jon Palmer wrote:
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I might have over done the ambiguity on this one, but one of my goals for
mocs is to get that exact reaction.
Which way does it go?
And I do actually love to go really fast in reverse gear sometimes, by the
way!
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Jon, you like to go really fast in every gear.
Love the plane, BTW. SNOT canopies r00l.
-Grand Admiral
.space Curator
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And I do actually love to go really fast in reverse gear sometimes, by the
way!
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Oh then it was you I saw this morning passing me on the highway?
Arf! Arf! Arf!
JP.
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In lugnet.announce.moc, Jon Palmer wrote:
I like that quite a bit.
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Sweet! I love this. Its a floating tank that flies.
Ive been completely out of the LEGO scene for months, and Im playing catch up
now. This crimson skies stuff is awesome, but this is definitely my favourite of
them all so far.
I think that the gattling gun is what really does it for me. It reminds me of
the A-10 in a way, where the whole plane is built around a grotesquely huge gun.
Screw an engine, we all know that the big cylinder in the center is an ammo
drum.
I love how you made the cockpits, and two of them too!
The only thing I dont care for are the geonosian prints on the bottom of the
pontoons, too bad LEGO doesnt make that piece in plain.
Awesome work Jon!
-Geordan
In lugnet.announce.moc, Jon Palmer wrote:
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When the United States collapsed it took much of the new highway system with
it. Pacific Northwest based Kenworth adapted to the change and abandoned
truck building for planes.
Along with Boeing Syndicate, Kenworth grew to be one of the main plane
builders for Pacifica. Its line of flying boats was utilized by the military
and pirates alike.
The FB7 Berserker:
Click the image for the rest of the pics.
Along with Crimson Skies this MOC was heavily inspired by Porco Rosso and
Nausicaa. Big thanks to Tom Rafert for the Kenworth idea.
Tell me what you think!
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In lugnet.announce.moc, Jon Palmer wrote:
> When the United States collapsed it took much of the new highway system with
> it. Pacific Northwest based Kenworth adapted to the change and abandoned
> truck building for planes.
>
> <<http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/jpalmer/CrimsonSkies/Berserker/kenworth.gif>>
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> Along with Boeing Syndicate, Kenworth grew to be one of the main plane
> builders for Pacifica. Its line of flying boats was utilized by the military
> and pirates alike.
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> The FB7 Berserker:
Ah, at last, something new under the sun. Really great work Jon, innovative
design, interesting background story, etc. A+
Take care,
Gary
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Hey Jon,
Im not sure if you meant to be funny or serious but I think the Berserker is
absolutely hilarious! It borders on looking like one of those crackpot flying
contraptions from old movie reels of the early days of aviation. This airplane
is definitely a departure from reality and alternate reality, to the point that
it actually steps backward and ignores the advances and conventional wisdom in
warplane designs of the WWII era.
For example, the bi-wing in the front creates a tremendous blind spot for both
crewmen (I assume one is a pilot and the other is a navigator or bombardier?).
Perhaps the top wing is for extra lift because of the huge gat in front? If so,
it may be pointless since the top wing limits crucial visibility in air-to-air
combat. I believe thats one reason why bi-plane fighters were replaced by
mono-planes in WWII.
Speaking of visibility problems, that big central engine creates a HUGE lateral
blind spot for the pilot (whichever side he or she is on). The poor pilot has
absolutely no clue whats happening on the other side of that big ass engine. I
guess the guy or gal on the opposite side must be there as a lookout? Or do they
trade off piloting the plane in combat, depending on which side the bad guy is
on? Or was the Kenworth design team just drunk when they designed this thing?
Another design flaw is situating the crew on the wings. This is a very risky
move because both crewmen are totally exposed to gunfire. There doesnt seem to
be much cockpit armor to protect them from direct hits or even ricochets off the
other surfaces around them. And the poor saps could get shot clean off the
fuselage along with the wing. Also, if the engine gets hit directly, both
crewmen are totally screwed if it explodes. Since most of the engine is in the
rear of the plane, the odds of a direct hit are much, much greater. With the
added drag from those huge pontoons, this airplane is guaranteed to spend most
of its combat time with its tail in the gun sights of the enemy, eventually
lighting up the sky with a spectacular fireball.
So I think the Berserker sucks as a warplane and Im hoping that was your
intent. Otherwise, Im sorry to rag on your MOC and your effort. On the positive
side, it certainly is a very masterfully built Lego model. The SNOT building is
superb! I also dig the color scheme and the way you used the pieces to
accomplish it. This MOC offers lots of cool details and building ideas and your
presentation is excellent, as always.
--Dan
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In lugnet.space, Daniel Jassim wrote:
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So I think the Berserker sucks as a warplane and Im hoping that was your
intent. Otherwise, Im sorry to rag on your MOC and your effort. On the
positive side, it certainly is a very masterfully built Lego model. The SNOT
building is superb! I also dig the color scheme and the way you used the
pieces to accomplish it. This MOC offers lots of cool details and building
ideas and your presentation is excellent, as always.
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Dan, you have completely failed to consider the important things:
1) How well does this MOC whoosh?
2) Big honkin gun!
3) Looks cool.
-Grand Admiral
.space Curator
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In lugnet.announce.moc, Jon Palmer wrote:
Jon, this is truely AMAZING. You have inspired me to get back into building
space creations. Great job!
On a side note, is Crimson Skies your own creation (like GAs 3vil and Lennys
Eastern Blok), or is it a movie?
Im a castle fan who builds spaceships, got a problem with that?
- Me, during a debate with my friends
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In lugnet.space, Nathan Wells wrote:
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On a side note, is Crimson Skies your own creation (like GAs 3vil and
Lennys Eastern Blok), or is it a movie?
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Neither, its a videogame, I believe, as well as a miniatures game.
Try this site for the miniatures and
this site for the video
game...
I think the miniatures came first but I dont recall.
Hope that helps.
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In lugnet.announce.moc, Jon Palmer wrote:
It took me a while to wrap my brain around the direction this thing flies, but
once I figurd it out, Im rather impressed.
I mourn for the loss of the stud, though. All this snot/studless building...
Adrian
http://www.brickfrenzy.com
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In lugnet.build.military, Mark Sandlin wrote:
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Dan, you have completely failed to consider the important things:
1) How well does this MOC whoosh?
2) Big honkin gun!
3) Looks cool.
-Grand Admiral
.space Curator
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Hmmmm.
Airforce.
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In lugnet.space, Felix Greco wrote:
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Okay! Ive really enjoyed following all the Crimson Skies models being
built. I have to say, this is my favorite. Of what Ive seen of the game,
youve really captured the essence of the theme. Are the game creators aware
of the models bieng built with lego?
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Thanks Felix. And to think I was just going to say I thought you had gone
insane (judging from your latest sculptures) during your last hiatus. I mean
this in a loving, respectful way...please understand.
I went looking for a Crimson Skies forum to post this in but stopped looking
after a minute or so.
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By the way, Im only responding to your post because Im part of your clique
and am therefore obligated to praise your work ;)
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Oh of course. This is the only reason Im responding to you. But Im starting to
think they are catching on to our secret society.
PS: I will meet you in the secret chamber below the maze in Chartres at midnight
in a week.
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In lugnet.space, Greg Majewski wrote:
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In lugnet.announce.moc, Jon Palmer wrote:
I like that quite a bit.
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Thanks Greg.
Welcome back.
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In lugnet.space, Geordan Hankinson wrote:
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Sweet! I love this. Its a floating tank that flies.
Ive been completely out of the LEGO scene for months, and Im playing catch
up now. This crimson skies stuff is awesome, but this is definitely my
favourite of them all so far.
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Thanks dude!
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I think that the gattling gun is what really does it for me. It reminds me of
the A-10 in a way, where the whole plane is built around a grotesquely huge
gun. Screw an engine, we all know that the big cylinder in the center is an
ammo drum.
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I actually hesitated to put that on because at the time (1937 or so) there
werent really any guns like that used. It was sort of a dead period between the
gatling guns of the post-civil war era and the vulcan miniguns of the 50s on.
But then I remembered all of this is make believe and it looks rad...so I
slapped it on the plane.
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I love how you made the cockpits, and two of them too!
The only thing I dont care for are the geonosian prints on the bottom of the
pontoons, too bad LEGO doesnt make that piece in plain.
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I might just brasso those off sometime, but they dont really bother me.
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In lugnet.space, Gary Thomas wrote:
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Ah, at last, something new under the sun. Really great work Jon, innovative
design, interesting background story, etc. A+
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Thanks a lot! Id like to make some more planes like this before I get back into
some other projects.
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In lugnet.space, Mark Sandlin wrote:
Dan, you have completely failed to consider the important things:
1) How well does this MOC whoosh?
2) Big honkin gun!
3) Looks cool.
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Nah, I dig it as a Lego MOC. Jon did a great job all around, as always. Dont
get me wrong. The criticism is really against Kenworth Industires for designing
a flying deathtrap-for-two. They need to stick to trucks.
--Dan
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In lugnet.space, Daniel Jassim wrote:
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Hey Jon,
Im not sure if you meant to be funny or serious but I think the Berserker is
absolutely hilarious! It borders on looking like one of those crackpot flying
contraptions from old movie reels of the early days of aviation. This
airplane is definitely a departure from reality and alternate reality, to the
point that it actually steps backward and ignores the advances and
conventional wisdom in warplane designs of the WWII era.
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Jassim with the smack! Sounds good to me.
Ill address your points and knock them down like the thrift-store mega bloks
they are.
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For example, the bi-wing in the front creates a tremendous blind spot for
both crewmen (I assume one is a pilot and the other is a navigator or
bombardier?). Perhaps the top wing is for extra lift because of the huge gat
in front? If so, it may be pointless since the top wing limits crucial
visibility in air-to-air combat. I believe thats one reason why bi-plane
fighters were replaced by mono-planes in WWII.
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The canard was inspired by the one on the Wright Flyer. When I was building this
I actually made sure the cockpits were placed in just the right spot so they
could see through the wings fine. And the red supports up front dont really
block the view either. And also, it looks cool.
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Speaking of visibility problems, that big central engine creates a HUGE
lateral blind spot for the pilot (whichever side he or she is on). The poor
pilot has absolutely no clue whats happening on the other side of that big
ass engine. I guess the guy or gal on the opposite side must be there as a
lookout? Or do they trade off piloting the plane in combat, depending on
which side the bad guy is on? Or was the Kenworth design team just drunk when
they designed this thing?
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I dunno man. Maybe its like my H-wing. Working together the 2 pilots can form a
good picture of the world around them like a left and right eye. Of course these
pilots arent Jedi...they just rawk.
And Kenworth wasnt drunk *but* there was a fairly good supply of cheap beer in
*my* fridge.
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Another design flaw is situating the crew on the wings. This is a very risky
move because both crewmen are totally exposed to gunfire. There doesnt seem
to be much cockpit armor to protect them from direct hits or even ricochets
off the other surfaces around them. And the poor saps could get shot clean
off the fuselage along with the wing. Also, if the engine gets hit directly,
both crewmen are totally screwed if it explodes. Since most of the engine is
in the rear of the plane, the odds of a direct hit are much, much greater.
With the added drag from those huge pontoons, this airplane is guaranteed to
spend most of its combat time with its tail in the gun sights of the enemy,
eventually lighting up the sky with a spectacular fireball.
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Ok now youre just talkin crazy. How can minifigs even shoot at each other?
They dont even have fingers!
Obviously you did not think of this, and therefore acted like an idiot, and
therefore I humiliate you.[1]
Im definitely thinking this is revenge for when I picked apart the Dragonstar.
Alls fair though.
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So I think the Berserker sucks as a warplane and Im hoping that was your
intent. Otherwise, Im sorry to rag on your MOC and your effort. On the
positive side, it certainly is a very masterfully built Lego model. The SNOT
building is superb! I also dig the color scheme and the way you used the
pieces to accomplish it. This MOC offers lots of cool details and building
ideas and your presentation is excellent, as always.
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Thanks for the smack and the complements. Good times.
[1] Thems more jokes, kids.
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In lugnet.space, Nathan Wells wrote:
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In lugnet.announce.moc, Jon Palmer wrote:
Jon, this is truely AMAZING. You have inspired me to get back into building
space creations. Great job!
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Thanks Nathan. Im actually going to make some castle stuff one day too.
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In lugnet.build.military, Jon Palmer wrote:
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Obviously you did not think of this, and therefore acted like an idiot, and
therefore I humiliate you.[1]
Im definitely thinking this is revenge for when I picked apart the
Dragonstar. Alls fair though.
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So I think the Berserker sucks as a warplane and Im hoping that was your
intent. Otherwise, Im sorry to rag on your MOC and your effort. On the
positive side, it certainly is a very masterfully built Lego model. The SNOT
building is superb! I also dig the color scheme and the way you used the
pieces to accomplish it. This MOC offers lots of cool details and building
ideas and your presentation is excellent, as always.
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Thanks for the smack and the complements. Good times.
[1] Thems more jokes, kids.
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almost forgot the punchline...
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In lugnet.space, Jon Palmer wrote:
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In lugnet.build.military, Jon Palmer wrote:
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Thanks for the smack and the complements. Good times.
[1] Thems more jokes, kids.
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almost forgot the punchline...
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NICE... how do you find things like that? :)
-JHK
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Gotta agree with Dan, he hit the nail right on the head with that post.
Despite employing SNOT techniques beautifully, this airplane seems to scrunched
up. Maybe if you lengthened it a bit it would look better. I can see what you
were trying to achieve, but I think you went a bit overboard.
The front multi-barrelled machine gun doesnt add much to the plane either. Not
because a gatling gun on a plane isnt cool, heck thats what most modern
military jets use (20mm to be exact) but because it looks so flimsy. I think you
should have stuck with a four barrel design instead.
Still a nicely built MOC. The colours are good too.
Mladen Pejic
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In lugnet.space, Adrian Drake wrote:
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It took me a while to wrap my brain around the direction this thing flies,
but once I figurd it out, Im rather impressed.
I mourn for the loss of the stud, though. All this snot/studless building...
Adrian
http://www.brickfrenzy.com
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Thanks Adrian! You should take some time off from the Trib and make a plane.
That would be great.
The stud is dead. Long live the SNOT.
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I dunno, I think youre missing the point. This Crimson Skies stuff is purely
fictional, and as a fictional plane straight out of Jons imagination, this
thing is damn cool. I dont like it when insanely whacky but intensly cool stuff
like this gets slagged for being unrealistic. If he were trying to sell this
design to lockheed, then Id laugh too. But hes not. Hes building it to make
flying noises out of the right side of his mouth, and shooting noses out of the
left as he makes a pass on his cat.
-Geordan
In lugnet.space, Daniel Jassim wrote:
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Hey Jon,
Im not sure if you meant to be funny or serious but I think the Berserker is
absolutely hilarious! It borders on looking like one of those crackpot flying
contraptions from old movie reels of the early days of aviation. This
airplane is definitely a departure from reality and alternate reality, to the
point that it actually steps backward and ignores the advances and
conventional wisdom in warplane designs of the WWII era.
For example, the bi-wing in the front creates a tremendous blind spot for
both crewmen (I assume one is a pilot and the other is a navigator or
bombardier?). Perhaps the top wing is for extra lift because of the huge gat
in front? If so, it may be pointless since the top wing limits crucial
visibility in air-to-air combat. I believe thats one reason why bi-plane
fighters were replaced by mono-planes in WWII.
Speaking of visibility problems, that big central engine creates a HUGE
lateral blind spot for the pilot (whichever side he or she is on). The poor
pilot has absolutely no clue whats happening on the other side of that big
ass engine. I guess the guy or gal on the opposite side must be there as a
lookout? Or do they trade off piloting the plane in combat, depending on
which side the bad guy is on? Or was the Kenworth design team just drunk when
they designed this thing?
Another design flaw is situating the crew on the wings. This is a very risky
move because both crewmen are totally exposed to gunfire. There doesnt seem
to be much cockpit armor to protect them from direct hits or even ricochets
off the other surfaces around them. And the poor saps could get shot clean
off the fuselage along with the wing. Also, if the engine gets hit directly,
both crewmen are totally screwed if it explodes. Since most of the engine is
in the rear of the plane, the odds of a direct hit are much, much greater.
With the added drag from those huge pontoons, this airplane is guaranteed to
spend most of its combat time with its tail in the gun sights of the enemy,
eventually lighting up the sky with a spectacular fireball.
So I think the Berserker sucks as a warplane and Im hoping that was your
intent. Otherwise, Im sorry to rag on your MOC and your effort. On the
positive side, it certainly is a very masterfully built Lego model. The SNOT
building is superb! I also dig the color scheme and the way you used the
pieces to accomplish it. This MOC offers lots of cool details and building
ideas and your presentation is excellent, as always.
--Dan
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he makes a pass on his cat.
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this can be taken so wrong.
on-the-other-hand, i do agree with the general point of your post. i mean,
really, i read that book where stephen hawking discusses different theoretical
attempts at interstellar travel - none of them were at all possible now or ever.
so the very fact that we have Space travel anything is 10x more unrealistic than
jons plane ever was.
-lenny
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In lugnet.space, John Henry Kruer wrote:
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NICE... how do you find things like that? :)
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Careful. People who ask Jon that question tend to get dragged off by the nice
men in black suits.
Soren
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In lugnet.space, Daniel Jassim wrote:
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For example, the bi-wing in the front creates a tremendous blind spot for
both crewmen (I assume one is a pilot and the other is a navigator or
bombardier?). Perhaps the top wing is for extra lift because of the huge gat
in front? If so, it may be pointless since the top wing limits crucial
visibility in air-to-air combat. I believe thats one reason why bi-plane
fighters were replaced by mono-planes in WWII.
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I remember reading once that the tri-wing+ concept was scrapped when it was
realized that it didnt really provide any more lift potential than a bi-wing,
but I suspect the switch from WWI bi-wings to WWII mono-wings had more to do
with advances in wing-construction. The bi-wing wings were just frames with
cloth strapped over the top, and no solid undersides. Mono-wing wings were
fully-skinned with metal plating over a highly sculpted inner frame (and the
advent of the jet engine made wing shape so much less important than it was in
prop-driven planes that jet planes can fly upside-down for extended periods),
and the advanced wing design simply rendered the bi-wing concept just as
pointless as the tri-wing.
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In lugnet.space, Jon Palmer wrote:
Jassim with the smack! Sounds good to me.
Ill address your points and knock them down like the thrift-store mega bloks
they are.
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Im Rick James, b*%#h. What did the five fingers say to the face? *slap!*
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The canard was inspired by the one on the Wright Flyer. When I was building
this I actually made sure the cockpits were placed in just the right spot so
they could see through the wings fine. And the red supports up front dont
really block the view either. And also, it looks cool.
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Werd.
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I dunno man. Maybe its like my H-wing. Working together the 2 pilots can
form a good picture of the world around them like a left and right eye. Of
course these pilots arent Jedi...they just rawk.
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Better yet, just say it was an experimental airplane with telepathic mutant
pilots.
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And Kenworth wasnt drunk *but* there was a fairly good supply of cheap beer
in *my* fridge.
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I knew it!
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Ok now youre just talkin crazy. How can minifigs even shoot at each other?
They dont even have fingers!
Obviously you did not think of this, and therefore acted like an idiot, and
therefore I humiliate you.[1]
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LOL!
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Im definitely thinking this is revenge for when I picked apart the
Dragonstar. Alls fair though.
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Revenge? Me?! (quickly hides tattered picture of Jon on dartboard) Whatchya
talkin about, buddy? I would never uh, ummm... Me???
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Thanks for the smack and the complements. Good times.
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Sorry again if I picked it apart too much. You really did an excellent job of
building and presentation. Maybe my humor detector sucks because when I first
saw it I couldnt tell if you deliberately made this design ambigious and were
spoofing Kenworth switching from making semi-trucks to warplanes (even calling
it the Berserker). I thought it was a gag but I guess the joke is on me.
But the smack is strictly about the realism, not Lego building skillz. Yeah, I
know the Crimson Skies shizzle is supposed to be fictional anyway but the idea
is to take artistic design liberties within the technological limitations of the
WWII era. That said, I just think this design is too odd and impractical and is
technologically inferior compared to most of the other CS MOCs presented thus
far. So I shared my observations because I know how you value constructive
criticism.
--Dan
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In lugnet.space, Geordan Hankinson wrote:
I dunno, I think youre missing the point. This Crimson Skies stuff is purely
fictional, and as a fictional plane straight out of Jons imagination, this
thing is damn cool. I dont like it when insanely whacky but intensly cool
stuff like this gets slagged for being unrealistic. If he were trying to sell
this design to lockheed, then Id laugh too. But hes not. Hes building it
to make flying noises out of the right side of his mouth, and shooting noses
out of the left as he makes a pass on his cat.
-Geordan
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Yes, Crimson Skies IS fictional, but it operates on the premise of an alternate
earth reality and the level of technology is supposedly that of the WWII era. So
even an alternate reality has to have physical and technological realism. Thats
the paramount limitation that forces the designer to come up with something that
kicks ass in both form and function. So I think Jons MOC is cool in form but
not in function. Its more comical than practical when compared to other CS
airplanes Ive seen. But, hey, my opinions are as good as farts in the wind.
--Dan
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In lugnet.announce.moc, Jon Palmer wrote:
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The FB7 Berserker:
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Excellent modelling as always Jon, but having all three sets of wings swept
forward just makes it look like a backwards-flying airplane - which simply makes
me go yuck from an aesthetic point of view. I would have done it with the
front wings swept back (i.e. their shapes reversed). I would also put a bit more
length in the fuselage, to put some space between front wings and rear wing.
Other than that, its a pretty funky CS model.
Cheers,
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But, hey, my opinions are as good
as farts in the wind.
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha beats chaff doesnt it.
I read your other reply to Jon and I see where you were coming from. No hard
feelings, it just seemed like you were jumping on him or something, which you
werent.
Sorry bout my jackalizing.
-Geordan
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In lugnet.space, Geordan Hankinson wrote:
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If he were trying to sell
this design to lockheed, then Id laugh too. But hes not. Hes building it
to make flying noises out of the right side of his mouth, and shooting noses
out of the left as he makes a pass on his cat.
-Geordan
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Shooting noses
:)
--Ryan W.
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In lugnet.announce.moc, Jon Palmer wrote:
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When the United States collapsed it took much of the new highway system with
it. Pacific Northwest based Kenworth adapted to the change and abandoned
truck building for planes.
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Along with Boeing Syndicate, Kenworth grew to be one of the main plane
builders for Pacifica. Its line of flying boats was utilized by the military
and pirates alike.
The FB7 Berserker:
Click the image for the rest of the pics.
Along with Crimson Skies this MOC was heavily inspired by Porco Rosso and
Nausicaa. Big thanks to Tom Rafert for the Kenworth idea.
Tell me what you think!
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Yknow...the whole craft is very beautifully constructed and really killer, but
I just cant get my mind to accept the orientation you present. I see and
understand that it flies in the direction you say, but it really does not work
for me. I love the double cockpits and huge engine and of course the gatlingest
of guns there in the front. The colors work allright.
I sort of ignored the Crimson Skies stuff up till now, but I think Im going to
set it in my small mental folder of themes I have to dabble in (right next to
Techwest)
As always, great work! :)
--Ryan W.
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Hahahaha nice catch.
-Geordan
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