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Re: Questions from a trains idiot
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Fri, 19 Nov 1999 12:03:48 GMT
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Frank Buiting wrote:
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> In lugnet.trains, Richard Marchetti writes:
> > Hey Y'all:
> > I plan on buying one of the fine train sets currently available from Shop@Home
> > and was wondering about a few things. I assume the sets that come with track
> > are complete and will run with the given accessories. I gather that rather
> > than an old Lionel hook or hitch style coupler, that Lego trains hookup by
> > magnets, is this right?
Yes.
> > From there I get a little more confused...
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> The train sets come with a speed regulator and will run out of the box.
> However I heard a rumour that there are plans to sell the trains WITHOUT speed
> regulator so it could be that you need to buy this seperately. Can anyone
> confirm this?
It varies. 3225 comes without track or a regulator. 4565 comes without a
regulator but with track. 4559 comes with both. 4561 comes with both.
There is a version (europe only, I think) of 4561, numbered 4560, that
comes without a regulator.
Personally I have way too many regulators and wish that I didn't get one
each time I bought another set.
If you end up buying 4565 (which is a good freight set, arguably the
best of the recent sets for "out of the boxness" play value) ask here
for a regulator, don't buy it from S@H, there are scads of us that will
sell you a used one for less than they charge.
> > Do I need one each of the Buffers, Magnets, and Couplers as well as the
> > Wheelsets accessories for each car I wish to make? I assume this should be
> > obvious, but I want to make sure of what I am looking at here...
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> To hookup your cars you need to have magnet couplers. There are other designs
> to connect cars (there was a discussion here about cars sharing a common wheel-
> set for example) For cars to run on the track you would also need train stuff
> like wheels, but from there on you can use whatever you like.
More specifically. If you are not building exotic designs, what you need
still depends on what you are making. For a two axle (dinky euro car as
I like to refer to it) you need one each of the wheels pack (it comes
with two axles worth) and the buffers/couplers pack (it comes with two
couplers). If you are building a 4 axle (american freight or a smaller
passenger) you will need two packs of the wheels, one buff/coup and one
pack of the "bogie plates.
The bogie plate is a 4x6 "tile" with a single centered technic pin. It
goes on top of a truck assembly to allow that truck assembly to swivel.
Now, if you are building a 2 axle car, you can just make the floor from
plates. But if you're building a 4 axle, you need something for the
bogie plate to plug into. TLC sells a "train base" which is a 6x28 2
plate high affair that has the holes. OR you can use technic plates and
some cleverness. In either case you need to leave a gap for the pin to
turn in (that is, do NOT put anything directly on top of the hole that
you use, leave at least one plate of free space)
If you have ldraw/ldlite, go to the cad models area and you can see some
train cars and engines, looking at the early steps will help.
Alternatively, go look at scanned instructions such as 4565 and 2126.
2126 is particularly good because it has both 4 wheel and 8 wheel
freight cars. The use of technic plates is a fan innnovation, TLG never
does it, they always use floor plates.
> > Would I want more than one Train Motor on a train and will this overload the
> > Speed Regulator?
> I think this is no problem. (In my own 12V set I had five trains on the same
> track) I guess this will be no different with the new 9V trains.
You can run more than one. As you add more, you get a slow down,
especially on grades. I have run 4 successfully. Very slow. Running 5
trips an internal reset and the speed reg shuts down (it thinks there's
a short circuit). you have to let it cool off and it works again.
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| Larry Pieniazek wrote: <snip good advice> (...) Not necessarily. If you want to model "Eurotrash", as Lar so eloquently puts it, then use the buffers and bogie plates. I model US style locos and cars and so I don't use the buffers. Instead I use (...) (25 years ago, 19-Nov-99, to lugnet.trains)
| | | Re: Questions from a trains idiot
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| (...) Larry! some of us don't have enough space to have trains of 15 american cars...besides which, it would take 5 motors to get it up the grade...it takes 3 under 9 cars now... (...) _or_ you can use the 2x2 plate turntables. Not as good a design, (...) (25 years ago, 19-Nov-99, to lugnet.trains)
| | | Re: Questions from a trains idiot
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| (...) Boy is it so nice that 3225 does not come with track or regulator (I don't know about others, but I have a lot more curved track than I need). I may be reaching the point where I have more train motors than I need, but so far I'm not overly (...) (25 years ago, 19-Nov-99, to lugnet.trains)
| | | Re: Questions from a trains idiot
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| (...) It's no short cirquit,but an overheated regulator, who reduces the output voltage with increasing heath. Using a larger heathsink on the regulator can reduce this problem. The used regulator 'chip' is a LM317T, capable to deliver 1.5 Amp. (...) (25 years ago, 19-Nov-99, to lugnet.trains)
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| | Re: Questions from a trains idiot
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| (...) Hi! I only have the 12V Trains, but I'm sure there are many people out there to correct me where I go wrong or fill in the gaps :-) (...) The train sets come with a speed regulator and will run out of the box. However I heard a rumour that (...) (25 years ago, 19-Nov-99, to lugnet.trains)
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