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Re: Questions from a trains idiot
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lugnet.trains
Date: 
Fri, 19 Nov 1999 16:56:32 GMT
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Larry Pieniazek wrote:

Frank Buiting wrote:

In lugnet.trains, Richard Marchetti writes:
Hey Y'all:


I plan on buying one of the fine train sets currently available from Shop@Home
and was wondering about a few things.  I assume the sets that come with track
are complete and will run with the given accessories.  I gather that rather
than an old Lionel hook or hitch style coupler, that Lego trains hookup by
magnets, is this right?

Yes.

From there I get a little more confused...

The train sets come with a speed regulator and will run out of the box.
However I heard a rumour that there are plans to sell the trains WITHOUT speed
regulator so it could be that you need to buy this seperately. Can anyone
confirm this?

It varies. 3225 comes without track or a regulator. 4565 comes without a
regulator but with track. 4559 comes with both. 4561 comes with both.
There is a version (europe only, I think) of 4561, numbered 4560, that
comes without a regulator.

Personally I have way too many regulators and wish that I didn't get one
each time I bought another set.

Boy is it so nice that 3225 does not come with track or regulator (I
don't know about others, but I have a lot more curved track than I
need). I may be reaching the point where I have more train motors than I
need, but so far I'm not overly endowed with regulators (I've got 4,
right now only one would be considered totally surplus, I use two for my
double oval layout, the power adaptor from the 3rd may get drafted to
run my RCX, and the 4th regulator would make a nice accessory power
source). 2126 of course comes with just cars so is a decent deal.

More specifically. If you are not building exotic designs, what you need
still depends on what you are making. For a two axle (dinky euro car as
I like to refer to it) you need one each of the wheels pack (it comes
with two axles worth) and the buffers/couplers pack (it comes with two
couplers). If you are building a 4 axle (american freight or a smaller
passenger) you will need two packs of the wheels, one buff/coup and one
pack of the "bogie plates.

The bogie plate is a 4x6 "tile" with a single centered technic pin. It
goes on top of a truck assembly to allow that truck assembly to swivel.

Now, if you are building a 2 axle car, you can just make the floor from
plates. But if you're building a 4 axle, you need something for the
bogie plate to plug into. TLC sells a "train base" which is a 6x28 2
plate high affair that has the holes. OR you can use technic plates and
some cleverness. In either case you need to leave a gap for the pin to
turn in (that is, do NOT put anything directly on top of the hole that
you use, leave at least one plate of free space)

If you have ldraw/ldlite, go to the cad models area and you can see some
train cars and engines, looking at the early steps will help.
Alternatively, go look at scanned instructions such as 4565 and 2126.
2126 is particularly good because it has both 4 wheel and 8 wheel
freight cars. The use of technic plates is a fan innnovation, TLG never
does it, they always use floor plates.

Other possibilities for bogies are to use the 2x2 tiles with vertical
pin. If you want to make an odd width car (5 or 7 stud) or use 1x2
plates w/center stud, you could use the 5x5 helicopter rotors as the
socket for the pins (hm, do these work with the bogie plates?). There
are of course all sorts of technic bits which could be used also.

Would I want more than one Train Motor on a train and will this overload the
Speed Regulator?

I think this is no problem. (In my own 12V set I had five trains on the same
track) I guess this will be no different with the new 9V trains.

You can run more than one. As you add more, you get a slow down,
especially on grades. I have run 4 successfully. Very slow. Running 5
trips an internal reset and the speed reg shuts down (it thinks there's
a short circuit). you have to let it cool off and it works again.

It is also worth noting that using two motors seems to give more
consistent speed as the train runs around a large circuit and up and
down grades.

--
Frank Filz

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(...) Yes. (...) It varies. 3225 comes without track or a regulator. 4565 comes without a regulator but with track. 4559 comes with both. 4561 comes with both. There is a version (europe only, I think) of 4561, numbered 4560, that comes without a (...) (25 years ago, 19-Nov-99, to lugnet.trains)

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