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    Retraction about offset stud on box cars and stuff —Christopher Masi
    Some time ago I said that I didn't think that adding the ribbing details--a la the 1/5 stud offset--was worth the extra bricks that it would cost me.[1] I guess I was extrapolating from my own tries at a 1/2 stud offset (which were less than (...) (23 years ago, 2-Jul-01, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: Retraction about offset stud on box cars and stuff —Jake McKee
     (...) Interestingly, I was toying with this yesterday. I was actually trying to see if I could get a similar method to work, but in a 4 or 6 wide config. Does anyone have a .dat file that shows how this method work? Jake --- Jake McKee AFOL LUGNET (...) (23 years ago, 2-Jul-01, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Retraction about offset stud on box cars and stuff —Christopher Masi
      (...) Jake, I found the message James Mathis asked... Did you use this design? (URL) was inspired by Gianluca's original design for the odd offset, but ended up with a different construction. I'm not sure my solution is "1/5" offset. There was some (...) (23 years ago, 3-Jul-01, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Retraction about offset stud on box cars and stuff —Tony Hafner
     (...) No .dat file, but Gianluca Morelli does an amazing job of demonstrating his technique with a pencil. His solution does this very nicely in 6-wide. I had the privilege of seeing the ITLUG car in the flesh at PNLTC's Guinness World Record (...) (23 years ago, 3-Jul-01, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Retraction about offset stud on box cars and stuff —Jason J. Railton
      (...) That's quite impressive, to have both the inset sides and the lettering. But, it only shows the two halves being kept 4 plates apart (5 plates = 2 studs). It doesn't appear to have any way of locking them in place on the body of the wagon. (...) (23 years ago, 3-Jul-01, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: Retraction about offset stud on box cars and stuff —Gianluca Morelli
      In lugnet.trains, Jason J. Railton writes:>That's quite impressive, to have both the inset sides and the lettering. (...) Look at this: (URL) you see the cross section (upper left),yes,the two halves are linked togther but not to the wagon,but they (...) (23 years ago, 3-Jul-01, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: Retraction about offset stud on box cars and stuff —Jason J. Railton
      (...) Ah, I get it now. Very subtle. By the way, I can now do 1/10 stud offsets! It's a bit small to look any good, but it's possible. You use a 2x1 plate with centre stud. That sets you 1/2 a stud, or 5/10, back from the normal row of studs. Then (...) (23 years ago, 4-Jul-01, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: Retraction about offset stud on box cars and stuff —Jake McKee
       (...) Can you post some pics? I would love to see this!! Jake --- Jake McKee AFOL LUGNET Member #211 (23 years ago, 4-Jul-01, to lugnet.trains)
      
           One-tenth stud offsets (was Re: Retraction about offset stud on box cars) —Jason J. Railton
       (...) Right, take a look at these pictures. I've set up a row of 1x2 bricks, each set 1/10 of a stud further back than the last: (URL) Anything from 1/10 to half a stud of recess could be concealed inside a 6-wide wagon. Jason J Railton (23 years ago, 4-Jul-01, to lugnet.trains)
      
           Re: One-tenth stud offsets (was Re: Retraction about offset stud on box cars) —Jake McKee
       (...) Thanks for the pics. The one thing I am still not fully understanding with all these methods is whether or not there is actually any means of fixed attachment of the bricks on the outside wall. Those 1x2 bricks that are set 1/10th apart, in (...) (23 years ago, 4-Jul-01, to lugnet.trains)
      
           Re: One-tenth stud offsets (was Re: Retraction about offset stud on box cars) —Jason J. Railton
       (...) Look to the bottom-left of the orange brick closest to you, and read the last paragraph again. Each brick is sat on a 2x2 plate of the same colour (admittedly, this isn't obvious from the photographs). This connects the light grey hinge or (...) (23 years ago, 5-Jul-01, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: Retraction about offset stud on box cars and stuff —Tony Hafner
      Yargh!! You beat me to it! After the 1/5 stud offset thread, I prototyped some 1/10 stud ideas in MLCAD half the day on Tuesday and then with bricks that night. But I was offline yesterday and just came in today. I still don't have a finished (...) (23 years ago, 5-Jul-01, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Retraction about offset stud on box cars and stuff —Gianluca Morelli
     (...) ....I was sure it happened... :-))))) And maybe that's why when it came back to me there was written "Itlug" on one side and "UlLtG" on the other... (no,just kidding :-)) ) Bye Gianluca (23 years ago, 3-Jul-01, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Retraction about offset stud on box cars and stuff —Tony Hafner
     (...) Heh- whoops! Um, actually... the car fell apart when the viaduct collapsed under the ambassador train... yeah, that's it! We have pics on brickshelf somewhere documenting the wreck... I would never disassemble someone else's creation... -- (...) (23 years ago, 3-Jul-01, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: Retraction about offset stud on box cars and stuff —Jason J. Railton
   Ah, now since one stud is exactly 2 1/2 plates, a 1/5 stud offset is equivalent to half a plate. That's equivalent to the indentation on the face of a headlight brick, or the height of its base lip, or the 1x4 face of one of those 1x2-1x4 brackets. (...) (23 years ago, 3-Jul-01, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: Retraction about offset stud on box cars and stuff —Christopher Tracey
   My SNOTgon uses headlight bricks for the 1/5 stud offset. Check it out: (...) (23 years ago, 3-Jul-01, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: Retraction about offset stud on box cars and stuff —Jake McKee
   (...) I checked out the pics, but they are kinda fuzzy, so they are a little hard to see the 1/5th. Can you describe how it is designed? Do you happen to have a .dat file for it? Thanks! Jake --- Jake McKee AFOL LUGNET Member #211 (23 years ago, 3-Jul-01, to lugnet.trains)
 

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