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Re: Hey, Joe. What doors do you use on your caboose
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Thu, 29 Apr 1999 06:20:39 GMT
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I guess I would have to agree along the lines of Larry's critique.  It is compressed
and toylike-- not that there is anything wrong with that (thank you, Jerry S) if that
is the look you desire.  If, however, you are looking for realism based on a
prototype, it is out of proportion.  For me, though, it's *all* out of proportion
building 6 studs wide instead of 8, so the point is somewhat mute (sic).
As for decals, Larry pretty much summed it up nicely.  To obtain decals, go to
Microscale's website      http://www.microscale.com/
or Champion's website http://minot.com/~champ/
for the best sources.  I use O scale decals because I like to build 8 wide and
therefore have more room for decals.  O scale decals, however, are a bit too large.  S
scale would probably be the best, but it isn't a very popular gauge and therefore not
many decals are made for it.  Champion does sell *blank* sheets (8 1/2 x 11 for $2.00,
minimum 4), which can be run through a laser printer.  I have recently purchased these
but have yet to use them.  When I do I will, of course, report my findings.

-John

Larry Pieniazek wrote:

Well, I generally like Joe's work but I have to take a contrary view. I
feel there is a line between "successfully selectively compressed" and
"too small" and I feel this particular caboose is well over that line.
It's so short that it is disproportionately tall compared to length.
This makes it look toylike. Not the look I go for. Within the selective

As everyone knows I am not a real modeler [1], so the realness or the toyness of
the model does not change my opinion usually. The toy factor might even make it
more appealing to me. It has a cuteness to it while still resembling a real
caboose. The cuteness makes it more endearing, to me.

I have commented about the effect of the decals before; if the decals were removed
from this caboose it would be much more boring. Joe uses decals very effectively.

compression limitations, I go for a beefy look that suggests much larger
equipment.

Contrast with mine, which is significantly longer (but also uses red
town doors and 2x2 windows). Admittedly I'm biased but I think mine

better captures the spirit of a caboose than Joe's or the Steve Barile

Chessie caboose (which suffers even more since it only has 2 axles. Very

I thought I saw a two axel caboose on Trains Unlimitted. It struck me as odd
because I saw it around the time the whole coach vs caboose discussion was raging.

unprototypical.) which are the other well known cabeese out there.

What is good for the caboose is good for the cabander?

On the decal question, these are neither. They are decals. A decal is a
thin film that is floated off its backing paper by long (60-120 second)
immersion in water, applied, while still wet, to the surface, and
allowed to dry. Dry transfers are pressed off, and stickers are peeled
off, respectively, from their backing paper.

Wet decals are superior to either other technology for detailed
decoration, especially when adhesion to irregular surfaces is required
(a chemical, tradenamed "solvaset" can be applied while the decal is
wet, or after it dries to stretch them to allow conformance).

On decals again...I will now stop asking about the sticker = sticker, dry transfer
= dry transfer, decal = wet transfer.

On stickers...injets can print on transparencies, provided the transparancy is the
right type. So, I would love to find a transparency with a sticky back on which an
inkjet could print. Thus, homemade easily removeable stickers. But I digress.

Chris

[1] After being busted on my diesel electric cop-out front-end I have finally fixed
it. The pictures have been taken and they should be up tomorrow. I'll let you know.



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