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Re: Hey, Joe. What doors do you use on your caboose
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Date: 
Thu, 29 Apr 1999 06:20:39 GMT
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I guess I would have to agree along the lines of Larry's critique.  It is compressed
and toylike-- not that there is anything wrong with that (thank you, Jerry S) if that
is the look you desire.  If, however, you are looking for realism based on a
prototype, it is out of proportion.  For me, though, it's *all* out of proportion
building 6 studs wide instead of 8, so the point is somewhat mute (sic).
As for decals, Larry pretty much summed it up nicely.  To obtain decals, go to
Microscale's website      http://www.microscale.com/
or Champion's website http://minot.com/~champ/
for the best sources.  I use O scale decals because I like to build 8 wide and
therefore have more room for decals.  O scale decals, however, are a bit too large.  S
scale would probably be the best, but it isn't a very popular gauge and therefore not
many decals are made for it.  Champion does sell *blank* sheets (8 1/2 x 11 for $2.00,
minimum 4), which can be run through a laser printer.  I have recently purchased these
but have yet to use them.  When I do I will, of course, report my findings.

-John

> Larry Pieniazek wrote:
> 
> > Well, I generally like Joe's work but I have to take a contrary view. I
> > feel there is a line between "successfully selectively compressed" and
> > "too small" and I feel this particular caboose is well over that line.
> > It's so short that it is disproportionately tall compared to length.
> > This makes it look toylike. Not the look I go for. Within the selective
> 
> As everyone knows I am not a real modeler [1], so the realness or the toyness of
> the model does not change my opinion usually. The toy factor might even make it
> more appealing to me. It has a cuteness to it while still resembling a real
> caboose. The cuteness makes it more endearing, to me.
> 
> I have commented about the effect of the decals before; if the decals were removed
> from this caboose it would be much more boring. Joe uses decals very effectively.
> 
> > compression limitations, I go for a beefy look that suggests much larger
> > equipment.
> > 
> > Contrast with mine, which is significantly longer (but also uses red
> > town doors and 2x2 windows). Admittedly I'm biased but I think mine
> 
> > better captures the spirit of a caboose than Joe's or the Steve Barile
> 
> > Chessie caboose (which suffers even more since it only has 2 axles. Very
> 
> I thought I saw a two axel caboose on Trains Unlimitted. It struck me as odd
> because I saw it around the time the whole coach vs caboose discussion was raging.
> 
> > unprototypical.) which are the other well known cabeese out there.
> 
> What is good for the caboose is good for the cabander?
> 
> > On the decal question, these are neither. They are decals. A decal is a
> > thin film that is floated off its backing paper by long (60-120 second)
> > immersion in water, applied, while still wet, to the surface, and
> > allowed to dry. Dry transfers are pressed off, and stickers are peeled
> > off, respectively, from their backing paper.
> > 
> > Wet decals are superior to either other technology for detailed
> > decoration, especially when adhesion to irregular surfaces is required
> > (a chemical, tradenamed "solvaset" can be applied while the decal is
> > wet, or after it dries to stretch them to allow conformance).
> 
> On decals again...I will now stop asking about the sticker = sticker, dry transfer
> = dry transfer, decal = wet transfer.
> 
> On stickers...injets can print on transparencies, provided the transparancy is the
> right type. So, I would love to find a transparency with a sticky back on which an
> inkjet could print. Thus, homemade easily removeable stickers. But I digress.
> 
> Chris
> 
> [1] After being busted on my diesel electric cop-out front-end I have finally fixed
> it. The pictures have been taken and they should be up tomorrow. I'll let you know.



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