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  Re: Hobby Train - the no future train?
 
In lugnet.trains, Tim David wrote: Hi Tim! (...) Excellent - my message was too long anyway. :-) (...) I myself have been amazed again and again during the past 2 years to find even by far more train stuff then ever expected in the past: Santa Fe (...) (19 years ago, 9-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  ILTCO still operating?
 
Hey gang, Any one from ILTCO still around? I posted a club application 2 weeks ago to ILTCO and I haven't heard a word from anyone. Is ILTCO still accepting applications??? Thanks, Jim F, DelVaLUG rep (19 years ago, 9-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Hobby Train - the no future train....
 
I have picked up on some of the points you have made and not others (...) I find this interesting. In the UK trains have not been generally avaiable for years, with only the biggest/best toystores carrying any an even then not usually the whole (...) (19 years ago, 9-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Hobby Train - the no future train....
 
(...) Hi Ram, I think, I am quite familiar with the things one can expect from LEGO. I do not understand all the optimism here in Lugnet concerning the new kids trains. The nowadays 9V train stuff is available in 99% of all toy retail shops in (...) (19 years ago, 8-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
(...) Hi Ben. Thanks for the write up. Sounds like the Manas style IR with serial data packets being sent at diffferent rates simulating multi-channel on a single medium is being used. From your description, I am assuming that "little" locomotives (...) (19 years ago, 8-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
(...) [snip] Dear Jason, as just written in a reply on Ondrews questions, I cannot tell the answers to your questions. I missed these specific details. And we have seen not more than a train base with a metroliner placed on top of it... Regarding (...) (19 years ago, 8-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
(...) [SNIP] (...) Hi Ondrew, picture taking was not allowed and we have respected this limitation. Release date will be in september (as planned so far) I had less than 3 minutes to have a view on the system. I have not demounted the motor from the (...) (19 years ago, 8-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
(...) Thanks for the information Ben. I have a question - did they have working lights? Were the lights on normal 9V cables? If they could not be controlled from the remote, how did they switch on and off? Also, was the motor connected by a standard (...) (19 years ago, 8-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Hobby Train
 
There seems to be a lot of discussion about the new battery powered trains. I notice that there seems to be a general consensus that the trains are targeted towards younger kids. What ever happened to the promised "hobby trains"? I believe this was (...) (19 years ago, 8-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains
 
(...) The motors are new, the wheels are plastic. Thus the IR train can run independently on 9V track among 9V trains. (...) The roof of the high speed train seems to be this part:¬ (URL)¬ This can be seen at the middle car on the poster. (...) It (...) (19 years ago, 8-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Battery drive / new trains
 
(...) Yep, a totally new train motor too. So now I need even more convincing that Lego will continue with the traditional 9v track-powered range. Jon (19 years ago, 8-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Battery drive / new trains
 
(...) Similar to our trams, which all carry emergency battery power for if it stops at an isolated section. (...) It seems (URL) the wheels are plastic>, so maybe not total havoc. ROSCO (19 years ago, 8-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Battery drive / new trains
 
(...) Ah...another reference to my enthusiastic pioneering approach by Jason. The loco in question is a replica of a real loco called a Motor Luggage Van made as a single unit for the Southern Region (ex British Rail). As the name suggests, it was a (...) (19 years ago, 8-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
(...) thank you for the info ben! i have a couple quick questions i hope you don't mind. is there any info on a release date? the wire that goes to the motor, is that the same old 2x2 conecter? i assume the battery box is on the bottom side of the (...) (19 years ago, 8-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Are We Headed to a New Wiring System? For Mindstorms the answer is: YES!
 
Hi Adrian, the new mindstorms is using standard plugs as known from telephone systems. At least this is what the "experts" said in Frechen yesterday. I myself have no deeper knowledge in mindstrorms and I cannot guarantee what a telephone cable (...) (19 years ago, 8-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.technic)
 
  Some more infos on new trains (they were partly presented in Frechen/Germany)
 
Hi all! Jan Beyer has shown us parts of the new train System in Frechen/Germany. Just some unassortet aspects and informations. - The track is full plastic as already seen. - The train base is 32 studs long and contrains IR recievers on both sides (...) (19 years ago, 8-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)  
 
  Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains
 
(...) Eeoow. That's akin to kissing one's sister:-p (...) Well, I was imagining a sort of regulator as a part of the battery pack that a remote control could simply activate. A long time ago my son Ross rigged up an old 12 volt motor that ran off of (...) (19 years ago, 8-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Non LEGO LEGO build for my trains
 
(URL) Inspired by Steve B's (if I recall) picture in the AFOL comic book, I built myself a storage unit for my locomotives and rolling stock (URL) It isn't complete yet--I have to put the facing trim on, but other than that, it's done enough for (...) (19 years ago, 8-Jan-06, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains
 
(...) I'd just assumed that most train-heads knew that already. John, you need to open up and talk to the six-wide builders more... ;-) But what does happen if you connect a 9V battery box to a train motor is that you get not so much a (...) (19 years ago, 7-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Modding plastic track to conducting track
 
(...) Well theoretically using conducting tape would work but reliability would be a huge issue. My guess would be that the tape would likely rub through within a hour or two. The other method of adding metal to the plastic is a little more (...) (19 years ago, 7-Jan-06, to lugnet.parts.mod, lugnet.trains)
 
  Modding plastic track to conducting track
 
Hi all, I'm curious what you part modders think about modifying the new plastic train track to allow it to conduct electricity. My thought was that you could use metallic conducting tape on top of the plastic tracks and make yourself a good (...) (19 years ago, 7-Jan-06, to lugnet.parts.mod, lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains
 
(...) Eureka, Mike! I think you have nailed it! The spy pics show metal wheels, suggesting that they are indeed still utilizing the 9 volt train motor. That side thingie I was concerned about now appears to be the sensor that gets the signal from (...) (19 years ago, 7-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains
 
(...) I agree with you here, Jason. When considering the new battery system, we are, in theory, talking about a line that will provide easier access to LEGO trains for the GP. There is something non-threatening about devices which only require just (...) (19 years ago, 7-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains
 
In lugnet.trains, Jason J. Railton wrote: (snip) (...) This is exactly how I feel about the new trains. Whilst I welcome the realistic Euro designs and the entry-level pitching, the assurance that 'metal track will continue to be available' is not (...) (19 years ago, 7-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains
 
(...) The whole point of this exercise is to bring down the entry point of a starting train set. The Super Chief cost more than the My-Own-Train, so it doesn't help one bit. The price-per-piece is irrelevant - if that was the only engine available (...) (19 years ago, 7-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Tetraethyl lead tank car
 
(...) You go from tiny little cars to one big one. I just wish I had some of those blue slopes. :( I guess I will just have to keep an eye out for some on Bricklink. Great work, I still have some more tank cars to make and plan to use some of your (...) (19 years ago, 7-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains
 
(...) Only if the Super Chief was three times as expensive, which it wasn't. Real bricks mean more value for the dollar than molded super-pieces. (...) I have no idea what effect price per piece means for TLC's bottom line. They seem to go to either (...) (19 years ago, 7-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains
 
(...) The nose is not really that different to that on sets like the Metroliner, 4511 passenger train and 4561 passenger train. The main difference appears to be that instead of having a lower nose piece and an upper nose piece/windscreen, its now a (...) (19 years ago, 7-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Creating a GBC for a train layout
 
(...) Well, if the GMLTC 8-wide trains were involved, it would definitely be "mutilate, in a spectacular crash"... (URL) Here's one of my 8-wide locos> But, I'd suggest just go with what works for you. If an 8-wide train doesn't work, don't run (...) (19 years ago, 6-Jan-06, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc, lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Are We Headed to a New Wiring System?
 
"Steve Lane yahoo.co.uk>" <stevenrobertlane@<n...pamplease> wrote in message news:IsoMtA.C62@lugnet.com... (...) days??? (...) flex. I'm (...) it's (...) current 9V (...) It does seem to go away from the whole compatability isuue that LEGO has (...) (19 years ago, 6-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.technic)
 
  Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains
 
--SNIP-- (...) Which I would think helps my argument, not yours. (...) Which might represent a higher profit margin for Lego. Either way I doubt your typical kid (or their parents) looks at the price per piece. (...) Well the prodction doesn't quite (...) (19 years ago, 6-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains
 
(...) Yeah, but the Super Chief had 3x more pieces than the 10157. Per piece, the Super Chief comes in at 9.17 cents per piece, while the High Speed Locomotive comes in at 17.73. Beyond the savings in not designing a new mold for every new engine, (...) (19 years ago, 6-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Are We Headed to a New Wiring System?
 
(...) Unfortunately, however, (URL) it seems the connectors are obscure RJ-type connectors>, and are not easily obtainable - may even be custom made for TLC. And they make "piggy-backing" connectors much harder. I'll reserve my opinion for now... (...) (19 years ago, 6-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.technic, FTX)
 
  Re: Creating a GBC for a train layout
 
In lugnet.org.us.laflrc, Timothy Gould wrote: -SNIP- (...) Here's a link to the rendering of the train car we're asking about. (URL) The blue 2x2 round bricks slung between the train wheel sets is what we're concerned about. In this 6-wide train (...) (19 years ago, 6-Jan-06, to lugnet.org.us.laflrc, lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Are We Headed to a New Wiring System?
 
(...) My gut feeling is no. Their is no need for Technic to have a six wire flex. I'm pretty sure it's more expensive from a manufacturing point of view and it's bulkier. Also why go to all the expense of having to redesign all the current 9V parts? (...) (19 years ago, 6-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.technic)
 
  Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains
 
(...) Having metal wheels has its ups and downs. One down is that you won't be able to run it on a 9v line independent of the 9v train. We probably won't be able to run to IR controled trains independently of each other (one remote will likely (...) (19 years ago, 6-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains
 
(...) I'll take your "I don't buy this argument" and raise it. We know that the Super Chief proved popular amongst AFOLs, but not neccesarily amonst the population at large. (...) Fortunately we don't need to think about this one, the prices are (...) (19 years ago, 6-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains
 
(...) No need to wait or hope for an 8-wide curved roof element. Take a look at the new airliners: (URL) Particularly this piece: (URL) Now to just hope they produce it in black, dark bley, and light bley. -Jeramy (19 years ago, 6-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
 
  Re: Are We Headed to a New Wiring System?
 
(...) This is an interesting and intriguing hypothesis, Adrian. For our (TCLTC) applications of the LEGO wiring system, RJ would be a welcome change. One could custom cut wire lengths, and it would be a whole lot cheaper (and probably more reliable, (...) (19 years ago, 6-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.technic, FTX)
 
  Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains
 
(...) I don't buy this argument. The Super Chief proved that brick-built designs can be both aesthetically pleasing and popular. And how could a brick-built design be any more expensive than that Playmobil wanna-be? 20-30 small bricks made from (...) (19 years ago, 6-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)


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