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Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains
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Date: 
Sun, 8 Jan 2006 21:43:57 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Christopher Masi wrote:
John wrote:
Can "new trains" ever be a {bad thing}?  Doubtful, but here are some
observations based on the pic below that explore this question:

<http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/lrlego/Schep/02-train_2006.jpg
<http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/lrlego/Schep/thumb/02-train_2006.jpg_thumb.jpg>>

* It appears that the battery motor has metal flanges like the 9 volt motor.
  Probably good; will last longer than mere plastic.

Having metal wheels has its ups and downs. One down is that you won't be
able to run it on a 9v line independent of the 9v train. We probably
won't be able to run to IR controled trains independently of each other
(one remote will likely contol any IR train that the remote is pointed
at)  but it would be cool to control one train using a 9v regulator and
a second train using the IR remote. If the new system uses the old 9v
motors, then we (OK I) won't be able to do this.

The motors are new, the wheels are plastic.
Thus the IR train can run independently on 9V track among 9V trains.

* And speaking of the passenger train, it appears that the nose, while cool, is
  a 1 piece mold, thus rendering it useless for 8 widers.  It's very existence
  mocks the effects of James Mathis over the years, a true {builder} of LEGO
  trains.  Has an agent of Playmobil secretly infiltrated the design team at
  TLG?

* I might be less critical if the new roof piece (apparently 8 studs long) is
  like <http://www.peeron.com/inv/parts/6005 this element> rather than
  <http://www.peeron.com/inv/parts/32083 this element>.  That would be cool,
  especially WRT the smoke window section.  If not, I'll file it into the
  "missed opportunity" bin, which is badly overflowing;-)

I suspect that these will have to go into your missed opportunity bin.

The roof of the high speed train seems to be this part:¬
<http://www.peeron.com/inv/parts/45411
This can be seen at the middle car on the poster.

As I mentioned previously, I probably won't run these trains, however tempting
the prospect of RC control might be.

I'd love to use IR control to run a trolley on the same line as my
trains, but I don't think this will be possible. No doubt, I'll buy at
least one for my son, so I'll get to try it out that way.

It is possible, you can even run up to 3 IR trains independently plus
a 9V train on 9V track.

As the IR trains has it's on power supply, I'm planning to let one run
on my 12V track together with a 4.5V battery train and a 12V train.
I can regulate the 12V train with the speed regulator and I can regulate
the IR train with the remote. The 4.5V train has no remote control, so
I have to control the 12V and IR trains to avoid collisions.

So I can only hope that TLG continues to produce the 9 volt motor.  [...]

Hmm... I wonder how the proposed LEGO Train Factory or the proposed LEGO
Train Bucket fits into the life or death of the traditional 9v line...

The new IR battery trains were announced as an additive train system for
a younger audience (thus also less and larger pieces in the high speed
train, the younger audience seems to like playing above building.....).
Spokesmen of TLC stated that the current 9V train remains available,
although they couldn't tell for how long. But no company is able to look
so far into the future and promise future availability.

Niels



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  Re: Thoughts on Spy Photos of New Trains
 
(...) I'm hoping these aren't using the same signal encoding as the Manas- they've already reused those on some IR cars as well. I'd really like to be able to control Mana-powered devices on a layout independently from the trains. And as long as the (...) (19 years ago, 11-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)

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(...) Having metal wheels has its ups and downs. One down is that you won't be able to run it on a 9v line independent of the 9v train. We probably won't be able to run to IR controled trains independently of each other (one remote will likely (...) (19 years ago, 6-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)

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