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  Re: 1999 Train 4561
 
(...) But the *size* of the sets is not being reduced. If anything, the mass and size of sets are increasing. Also, the Town Jr. parts are, on average, more complex than prior sets. More-complex dies/molds are more expensive to create, not less. (...) (26 years ago, 8-Dec-98, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 1999 Train 4561
 
(...) I'd guess that TLG is more focused on increasing the playing:building ratio, in favor of playing. That means reduced piece counts. But they probably count reduced costs as a plus. The drop-center doesn't affect the floor-to-ceiling height of (...) (26 years ago, 8-Dec-98, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 1999 Trains
 
Thinking about it, that lower black nose piece with the headlights in it must be new as well, the old one had slopes top and bottom, this just has them below. Which means they really did develop some new train pieces for '99, so that makes me even (...) (26 years ago, 8-Dec-98, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 1999 Train 4561
 
(...) Not so much the plastic, I think, as the molds/design/handlin...kaging/box size/shipping charges/etc.etc.etc. Jasper (26 years ago, 8-Dec-98, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 1999 Trains
 
(...) Whoops! You appear to be correct, I assumed it was from some space/underwater theme. I see that it does appear in 6453 a new Spaceport set but not any others. I guess the blue 6 wide sloped nose piece below the canopy is also new (I can't see (...) (26 years ago, 8-Dec-98, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 9volt motor problems -- I think
 
(...) I think first you need to remove the motor from your model and see if still works ok on its own. If it does, it sounds like your front wheels are lifting it off the track slightly and not allowing it to make a good electrical contact. Of (...) (26 years ago, 8-Dec-98, to lugnet.trains)
 
  9volt motor problems -- I think
 
I have a perplexing problem going on with my 9 volt train motor that I'm not sure if it's because the motor is bad or if it's because of improper construction techniques on my 4-4-0 steamer. I've been running my original-creation 4-4-0 around our (...) (26 years ago, 8-Dec-98, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 1999 Train 4561
 
(...) reduced (...) significantly (...) I definitely think this gets to the heart of the plague that is Town Jr. There's no other explanation for this kind of approach by a construction/building toy company. It's hard to believe ABS plastic is (...) (26 years ago, 8-Dec-98, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 1999 Train 4561
 
Eric Brok writes: > (...) Actually I think TLG is more concerned about keeping the cost down, reduced height means reduced piece counts, hence reduced cost. #4561 has significantly fewer pieces than #4558 Metroliner or #4559 Cargo Train. Matt (26 years ago, 8-Dec-98, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 1999 Trains
 
Matthew Bates wrote in message ... (...) trains (...) The train canopy is new for 99. It's used in other sets too, but my guess it was designed for this train because it's so fundamental to its look and is 6 studs wide (uncommon for non-train (...) (26 years ago, 8-Dec-98, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 1999 Train 4561
 
Calum Tsang wrote in message ... (...) trains (...) TLG train designers probably are concerned with making the train look sleek and fast, and find the old heigth too high for such an impression. Also in one respect, this results in more (...) (26 years ago, 8-Dec-98, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 1999 Train 4561
 
(...) Larry, I agree on the passenger cars. Aren't the freight cars used to haul assembled automobiles drop center? I'll have to watch more closely while I wait fro the freight to pass tomorrow morning to see. Larry A (26 years ago, 8-Dec-98, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 1999 Train 4561
 
(...) No one is arguing that a drop center doesn't make sense for a bi level. It just doesn't make sense in a single level, at least not in American Practice. American single level cars have floors that are above the trucks, from one vestibule to (...) (26 years ago, 8-Dec-98, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 1999 Train 4561
 
(...) to (...) They're also used in the Canadian GO Train cars which are City/Suburban transit cars pulled by Diesel Electrics. Calum (26 years ago, 8-Dec-98, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 1999 Trains
 
(...) by (...) If it wasn't for this piece, I'd still be worried, I don't see a single new piece in the other two sets. As for the cherry picker, anyone know what that signal is supposed to be? I've never seen one like that. And what is that little (...) (26 years ago, 7-Dec-98, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 1999 Trains
 
(...) Good point -- I've been afraid that trains were on their way out for the last year or so. (...) I liked that one, too. Steve (26 years ago, 7-Dec-98, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 1999 Train 4561
 
(...) I was told that there would be extra train sets but only available by mail-order. Just what the sets are, I do not know. I shall be asking though at our next meeting. Grahame Reid (26 years ago, 7-Dec-98, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 1999 Train 4561
 
My thoughts on the 4561 express: Given that Lego apparently uses playability as a requisite design constraint, the design makes sense. It appears you can load and unload the cars, and the cockpit design of the engine, makes it easy to get the (...) (26 years ago, 7-Dec-98, to lugnet.trains)
 
  1999 Trains
 
I'm glad to see the 4519 crossover at last, shows some commitment to trains by LEGO. Also I quite like the 4541 Road N' Rail Cherry Picker Truck, I'll definitely get one of those. The 4561 Railway Express, on the other hand, is absolutely terrible, (...) (26 years ago, 7-Dec-98, to lugnet.trains)
 
  Re: 1999 Train 4561
 
(...) Well, that's a little harsh in my opinion. I would have to say 4559 takes that prize. (1) I can see much more parts potential in this one and no doubt will get 2-4 of them for parts and one to be 9V complete. 1 - And of course this is a (...) (26 years ago, 7-Dec-98, to lugnet.trains)


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