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    converting 8880 4 wheel drive to regular hubs —Lawrence Wilkes
   I haven't pulled my 8880 apart yet, but was thinking of building a 4x4 using the 8880 running gear together with the large power puller wheels. Then I realised that the wheel hubs on the 8880 have a 'special' connection to the axles. Is there an (...) (23 years ago, 5-Jun-01, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: converting 8880 4 wheel drive to regular hubs —Simon Bennett
     (...) Basically you can add regular hubs at the expense of steering which is fine for one axle but at least one axle needs to steer doesn't it! You probably don't remember but I was playing about with a related problem when I considered buying some (...) (23 years ago, 5-Jun-01, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: converting 8880 4 wheel drive to regular hubs —Fredrik Glöckner
     (...) I haven't tried this myself, but here's a conversion courtesy of Jeff Boen: <URL:(URL) If it works the way it looks like, you may be able to retain all the functions of the 8880 suspension for normal wheels. The wheels will be offset more, (...) (23 years ago, 5-Jun-01, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: converting 8880 4 wheel drive to regular hubs —Simon Bennett
      Wow Fredrik, that could be just what I'm looking for too! So the question is, how much does it increase the offset and how much dish is there in a Power Puller wheel? Lawrence, if this works I'll have four wheels off you if you have any left. Psi (23 years ago, 5-Jun-01, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: converting 8880 4 wheel drive to regular hubs —Lawrence Wilkes
      "Fredrik Glöckner" <fredrik.glockner@bio.uio.no> wrote in message news:qrdn17n5gz2.fsf....uio.no... (...) Boen: (...) Thanks Fredrick, that looks great. Will give it a whirl tonight. Actually, my plan is for a 6x6, and I wanted front and rear (...) (23 years ago, 5-Jun-01, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: converting 8880 4 wheel drive to regular hubs —Fredrik Glöckner
      (...) I don't think I understand how using six wheels is going to help you here. The problem with the friction and steering will be present also when using six wheels. Perhaps you will find the problem even more severe, as there are four wheels (...) (23 years ago, 5-Jun-01, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: converting 8880 4 wheel drive to regular hubs —Lawrence Wilkes
        "Fredrik Glöckner" <fredrik.glockner@bio.uio.no> wrote in message news:qrd66ebdpeg.fsf....uio.no... (...) Sorry, my sentence was a bit confusing. I didn't plan to have 6 wheels to help steering, but wanted front and rear steeering because of the (...) (23 years ago, 5-Jun-01, to lugnet.technic)
      
           Re: converting 8880 4 wheel drive to regular hubs —Fredrik Glöckner
       (...) Ah, I see! I've had the same problem myself. I once made a truck using the 8880 wheels. It had three axles, and only the front one had steering. It was very hard to steer the thing because of the twin rear axles. My solution was to make the (...) (23 years ago, 5-Jun-01, to lugnet.technic)
      
           Re: converting 8880 4 wheel drive to regular hubs —Steve Lane
       (...) No it wasn't I understood first time. (...) I too am currently using power puller wheels in a similar project. I'm not saying too much yet but it should embrace all the factors discussed here. My vehicle is somewhat conventional but robust (...) (23 years ago, 5-Jun-01, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: converting 8880 4 wheel drive to regular hubs —Lawrence Wilkes
       "Fredrik Glöckner" <fredrik.glockner@bio.uio.no> wrote in message news:qrd66ebdpeg.fsf....uio.no... (...) I meant to add that the friction is in the tyres, not the lego assembly. They are too wide and the rubber causes too much friction. If you (...) (23 years ago, 5-Jun-01, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: converting 8880 4 wheel drive to regular hubs —Jennifer Clark
      (...) Or go one better by using one motor per wheel like LeTourneau's Electric Wheel: (URL) planetary hub reduction could be tricky though :-) Jennifer Clark (23 years ago, 5-Jun-01, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: converting 8880 4 wheel drive to regular hubs —Lawrence Wilkes
        "Jennifer Clark" <jen@vulture.dmem.strath.ac.uk> wrote in message news:3B1CE5E3.EE8C0C...h.ac.uk... (...) instead, (...) Wheel: (...) I have tried to get some more micro motors so that I could put one in each wheel of my mars rover - (URL) even (...) (23 years ago, 5-Jun-01, to lugnet.technic)
     
          Re: converting 8880 4 wheel drive to regular hubs —Steve Lane
      Hey all You could build this LeTourneau crash pusher with six power puller tyres :-) (URL) (23 years ago, 5-Jun-01, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: converting 8880 4 wheel drive to regular hubs —Lawrence Wilkes
      "Lawrence Wilkes" <lawrence@thewilkesf...rve.co.uk> wrote in message news:GEGJst.I4z@lugnet.com... (...) Finally got round to trying this. Whilst it looks nice on paper, and works on a static model, as soon as you try to move the vehicle forward (...) (23 years ago, 21-Aug-01, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: converting 8880 4 wheel drive to regular hubs —Fredrik Glöckner
     (...) That was what I feared. Thanks for reporting back on this! BTW, isn't there rumour in the loc.uk group that the new 4x4 8466 has some new part(s) which can be used to make steering wheel suspension on ordinary wheels? Or did I misunderstand (...) (23 years ago, 22-Aug-01, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: converting 8880 4 wheel drive to regular hubs —Gary E. Blessing
      go to Lego's site about the trucks, an get the biggest wallpaper image they have, the one with the off-road background. Now look at the inside of the front right wheel that's visible, you can vaguely see the parts used to make the 4 wheel drive ,and (...) (23 years ago, 22-Aug-01, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: converting 8880 4 wheel drive to regular hubs —Chris Fenter
     (...) No misunderstanding. It does! I have one, and a digital camera, but does anyone have any web/gallery space to spare to display a pic or two that could be linked to from lugnet.technic? I would be happy to email some pictures to anyone that (...) (23 years ago, 26-Aug-01, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: converting 8880 4 wheel drive to regular hubs —Fredrik Glöckner
     (...) You can upload your own images for all to see on www.brickshelf.com. Use the link "Create a new account" in the lower centre of the page. I'm looking forward to seeing the pictures! Fredrik (23 years ago, 26-Aug-01, to lugnet.technic)
    
         Re: converting 8880 4 wheel drive to regular hubs —Chris Fenter
     (...) Very good idea - link to follow shortly Chris. (23 years ago, 26-Aug-01, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: converting 8880 4 wheel drive to regular hubs —Fredrik Glöckner
   (...) Just a quick comment here. The new 4x4 which is due out soon will probably have the parts needed to build just what you want. If you can wait for it's arrival, that is. I've heard reports from people who have played with it that it does indeed (...) (23 years ago, 6-Jun-01, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: converting 8880 4 wheel drive to regular hubs —Lawrence Wilkes
    "Fredrik Glöckner" <fredrik.glockner@bio.uio.no> wrote in message news:qrdae3ll6lx.fsf....uio.no... (...) Pictures I have seen show it has the suspension from the silver champion. Downside - it costs money! I already have all the other parts. I am (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jun-01, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: converting 8880 4 wheel drive to regular hubs —Fredrik Glöckner
   (...) May I ask you for a reference to these images? I think the only images I have seen have been fairly small, with virtually no details from the suspension. Fredrik (23 years ago, 7-Jun-01, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: converting 8880 4 wheel drive to regular hubs —Lawrence Wilkes
      "Fredrik Glöckner" <fredrik.glockner@bio.uio.no> wrote in message news:qrdzobkfv4k.fsf....uio.no... (...) No! Cannot find them now, but I am sure I saw it. I don't think I am dreaming! regards lawrence (23 years ago, 7-Jun-01, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: converting 8880 4 wheel drive to regular hubs —Lawrence Wilkes
    "Fredrik Glöckner" <fredrik.glockner@bio.uio.no> wrote in message news:qrdzobkfv4k.fsf....uio.no... (...) Yeh, I think I might have been dreaming. I just found my copy of Autocar magazine from January of this year., where they were running an (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jun-01, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: converting 8880 4 wheel drive to regular hubs —Fredrik Glöckner
     (...) Too bad, I was hoping to see images of the 8466 suspension! Anyway, I think the 8466 has to incorporate some new elements to be able to have independent suspension and steering while being so narrow. Well, it's not _that_ narrow, but if it had (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jun-01, to lugnet.technic)
   
        Re: converting 8880 4 wheel drive to regular hubs —Johannes Keukelaar
   "LW" == Lawrence Wilkes <lawrence@thewilkesf...rve.co.uk> writes: LW> I just found my copy of Autocar magazine from January of this LW> year., where they were running an off-road car design contet that LW> has to use power-puller wheels. In there, (...) (23 years ago, 7-Jun-01, to lugnet.technic)
 

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