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| | | (...) Major time disagree with you: (URL) here for details. -Lord Insanity (24 years ago, 1-Jun-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | Re: Another one of those 'what's wrong with TPM' posts —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | (...) Yeah, but that's not really all too subtle. Besides which, the saber fighting in Episode IV reflects the lower production costs and technical sophistication of the 70's. I flatly disbelieve the "old men" excuse; if "size matters not," I don't (...) (24 years ago, 1-Jun-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | Re: Another one of those 'what's wrong with TPM' posts —James Simpson
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| | | | (...) If 20-25+ years ago George Lucas planned to offer his audience modest lightsaber battles (in ANH & TESB), so that he could wow his future fans (the same fans that he was sure would in fact be hooked) with a phenomenal lightsaber battles in his (...) (24 years ago, 1-Jun-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | Re: Another one of those 'what's wrong with TPM' posts —Erik Olson
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| | | | (...) I too don't but the "awesome powers of foresight" explanations. I may not think much of Lucas as a writer, but he is one. Part of creativity is re-interpreting your own work. Especially when you have to work yourself out of a plot jam. When (...) (24 years ago, 1-Jun-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | Re: Another one of those 'what's wrong with TPM' posts —Eric Joslin
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| | | | | (...) I didn't say that he planned it that far in advance, nor do I beleive that. I was merely repeating what Lucas said. I *do* think it was a bit of a retcon. I do like it because it lets him have more exciting lightsaber battles now. (...) Err, (...) (24 years ago, 1-Jun-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | Re: Another one of those 'what's wrong with TPM' posts —Erik Olson
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| | | | | | | (...) I said I'd never seen any statement to that effect--from an official source like Lucas or Kurtz talking about the early story (and I've seen a few of those types of interviews.) Besides, Obi-wan made everybody think otherwise, and that's the (...) (24 years ago, 1-Jun-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Another one of those 'what's wrong with TPM' posts —Eric Joslin
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| | | | | | | | | (...) I've seen and read several interviews with Lucas where he says that the original trilogy was written as one story (there was only one Death Star, though). Obi-Wan has his own reasons for lying to Luke. They should be obvious, if you think (...) (24 years ago, 1-Jun-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Another one of those 'what's wrong with TPM' posts —Bryan Hodges
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| | | | | | | | I just want to state that based on Obi-Wan's reaction when Luke asks him how his father died that we can assume that Lucas always intended Vader to be Luke's father. He kind of has that "searching-for-an-explanation" look on his face. Obi-Wan KNOWS (...) (24 years ago, 2-Jun-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Another one of those 'what's wrong with TPM' posts —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | | | | (...) I am not so sure about this. The flirtation between Luke and his sister, them looks ill-advised... given that SW was a kid's film. Scott A (...) (24 years ago, 2-Jun-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Another one of those 'what's wrong with TPM' posts —Eric Joslin
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| | | | | | | | (...) his (...) The sister thing *was* thrown in. Between Episode IV and Episode V being filmed, Mark Hamill was in a motorcycle accident. Besides necessitating the addition of the Wampa scenes (to explain the new scars, and the change in his face (...) (24 years ago, 4-Jun-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | Re: Another one of those 'what's wrong with TPM' posts —Mike Petrucelli
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| | | | | | (...) I don't understand how people don't see this. Watch all 4 movies in "chronological" order. No one realized it before ep. 1 but it seems glaringly obvious to me that the choreography supported the theory of old men and a young inexperienced (...) (24 years ago, 3-Jun-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | Re: Another one of those 'what's wrong with TPM' posts —Jeff Jardine
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| | | | Just a bunch of disjointed thoughts about this thread: C3P0 in TPM - I thought it was hokey and severely contrived that Anakin built him. If it was necessary to introduce C3P0 in this movie, I think it should have been in a more reasonable way. C3P0 (...) (24 years ago, 1-Jun-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | Re: Another one of those 'what's wrong with TPM' posts —Selçuk Göre
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| | | | (...) Jaba The Hutt of the first film, (the original one, not the retouched, effect rich newer editions) was also a humanoid. See the reference multimedia CD title from Lucas Arts, "Behind the Magic" for an interview with Lucas, about how they (...) (24 years ago, 2-Jun-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | Re: Another one of those 'what's wrong with TPM' posts —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | (...) Perhaps I saw oddly edited versions prior to '97, but I don't recall seeing Jabba onscreen at all! Dave! (24 years ago, 2-Jun-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | Re: Another one of those 'what's wrong with TPM' posts —Scott Arthur
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| | | | | | | (...) You're right. That scene ended up on the cutting room floor, it was then resurrected in re-mastered versions. The human actor was covered with the overgrown slug we know & love - not a very good scene anyway in my opinion. Scott a (...) (24 years ago, 2-Jun-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Another one of those 'what's wrong with TPM' posts —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | | | (...) Yeah! And it would have been better if Jabba didn't very nearly duplicate Greedo's dialogue from the previous scene! Dave! (24 years ago, 2-Jun-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | | Re: Another one of those 'what's wrong with TPM' posts —Scott Edward Sanburn
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| | | | | | (...) snarling (...) it. (...) seeing (...) Well, in the special edition of A New Hope, when they showed how the film was made, the Jabba scene, before Luke and Ben came on the ship, Han was talking to Jabba, who was a fat human, but never was (...) (24 years ago, 2-Jun-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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| | | | | | Re: Another one of those 'what's wrong with TPM' posts —Bryan Hodges
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| | | | (...) You can also see part of the scene with the original actor on the "From Star Wars to Jedi" video... it's a great video, IMO as entertaining to watch as any of the films. -Bryan (24 years ago, 2-Jun-00, to lugnet.starwars)
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