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(...) huh? Do you mean it just writes text to the RCX without any synchronization or checksums? Then how is it going to be an improvement over a plain ascii upload using e.g. ascii-xfr? (...) But then you can't use those constants (i.e the words, (...) (25 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.pbforth)
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(...) That's because the SREC upload uses the native upload code in the RCX ROM. It works really well but has to send each byte as a pair with the bits inverted. Also the header and trailer have to be added. The result is that it would be impossible (...) (25 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.pbforth)
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On Thu, Mar 09, 2000 at 09:04:26PM +0000, Ralph Hempel wrote: [...On a TCL program to communicate with the RCX...] (...) Uploading srec files has been without problem for me; it's uploading text that's painful. Does your program uses some protocol (...) (25 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.pbforth)
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I might be able to help somewhat. I use my PC running FreeBSD to talk to my RCX (RIS 1.5). After much heartache I found that if I used "ecu" as my terminal, it worked. I tried everything just to try them, and ecu worked the best. Ecu is old, but it (...) (25 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.pbforth)
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(...) Depends on which side of the fence you are on... (...) Hmmm. This is not good. I have ghad very good success with CRT, but I'm going to try a more general solution with Tcl. (...) I stopped supporting it late last year because it only worked (...) (25 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.pbforth)
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(...) Does that count as `tempted by the dark side' or `seen the light'? :) (...) itself. (...) I tried near and far mode, several distances, putting the tower and the RCX under a dark cloth... Everything I could think of except putting 'em where (...) (25 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.pbforth)
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(...) Good. I'm glad your on-side so far :-) (...) You are right. I have found that getting a reliable connection is very dependent on ambient light, the voltage of the RCX batteries, and the tower itself. Try to use the tower in NEAR mode so that (...) (25 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.pbforth)
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The power of Forth lies in the ease with which a system can be built and and tested both incrementally and interactively. Unfortunately I'm experiencing severe difficulties estasblishing a reliable communication channel between my PC (Linux) and the (...) (25 years ago, 9-Mar-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.pbforth)
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| | RE: Drive R/C Servos with the RCX and pbForth (long)
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<snipped discussion of the math of selling servo controller boards> (...) I'm not too worried about them stealing the idea. I can't imagine that none of their designers have thought about driving servos with the RCX. The circuit itself is so simple (...) (25 years ago, 13-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.robotics.rcx.pbforth, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
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In lugnet.robotics, Ralph Hempel writes: <snip> (...) What they will do and what they can do are two separate questions. Basically they can do nothing about the sales. They can complain about not respecting their trademark, or of copying of their (...) (25 years ago, 13-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.robotics.rcx.pbforth, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
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(...) Oops, forgot to answer the main question. Yes, I have thought about making boards...and as soon as I get out from under my current workload I'm going to give it even more thought.... It is just not worth my time and money to make any less than (...) (25 years ago, 12-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.robotics.rcx.pbforth, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
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(...) I hear you, John. Learning a new language can be a bit tricky, and I won't go into the details of why I think it's a good idea to learn different languages to get the benefit of different ways of thinking about problems...oops, don't get me (...) (25 years ago, 12-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.robotics.rcx.pbforth, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
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Ralph - I'm interested in the use of servos with the RCX, but I have no interest in learning the quirks of another computer language. I'm already a bit familiar with Visual Basic,and control the RCX with it. Can your pbForth solution be duplicated (...) (25 years ago, 12-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.robotics.rcx.pbforth, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
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(...) I should add here that no external power source is necessary to drive the servo. This is important since a micro or miniservo and an SMT version of the driver can be made to fit INSIDE a space similar to a worm gear box (6588 in LDraw). I'm (...) (25 years ago, 12-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.robotics.rcx.pbforth, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
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| | RE: Drive R/C Servos with the RCX and pbForth (long)
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(...) No, the servo needs power to the + and ground terminals to drive the motor to the setpoint indicated by the signal wire. If I don't invert the signal there is no power for about 30msec and only 1 or 2 msec ov voltage on the motor port. By (...) (25 years ago, 12-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.robotics.rcx.pbforth, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
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(...) If you're using a custom motor driver in pbForth, why use the inverter circuit at all? Why not just generate the desired waveform directly? Is there not enough current to drive the servo that way? --Ben (25 years ago, 12-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.robotics.rcx.pbforth, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
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Hi again everyone! A few days ago I announced that I had developed a nice little circuit using easily available parts that would let you connect servos to the RCX - with no external batteries or microprocessors or anything! At that time, I said that (...) (25 years ago, 12-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.robotics.rcx.pbforth, lugnet.robotics.rcx)
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| | Re: Using Servos with the RCX - Yes!
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(...) YES! Great job Ralph! (...) I love this. I could drive up to 6 pneumatic cylinders with a single RCX... wow! (...) The circuit is very simple to set up even for a non-electronic guy like myself. Give me just the time to lay my hands on one of (...) (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.robotics.rcx.pbforth)
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Hi all, I've finally got my RCX servo driver circuit working. It was actually working months ago but I couldn't get the servo to stop jittering. Then I swapped in a different servo, and it worked like a champ! (URL) Before you get all excited, the (...) (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.robotics.rcx.pbforth)
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| | Re: pbFORTH needs better uploading, docs
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(...) Getting a working legOS development evironment no longer takes a day. On Windows plateforms it only takes the time to download WinlegOS.exe (5.6Meg) and running the installer (a few minutes). The system is completely configured and ready to (...) (25 years ago, 2-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.pbforth)
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