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  Re: multiplexor and legOS
 
(...) Actually, something like this has been documented and done by Pedersen, Christensen, Rasmussen ("Prioritized Interrupts in LegOS"). They actually document the problem of sensor misses related to task management, significantly reducing the (...) (23 years ago, 5-Feb-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: multiplexor and legOS
 
(...) Most people's legOS kernels will be compiled so msleep uses wait_event. I haven't looked at the code, but my understanding of how wait_event works is that whenever that thread becomes eligible to execute, your even function is called. (...) (23 years ago, 5-Feb-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: multiplexor and legOS
 
Try the following code fragments. [Change to fixed spacing font so that it reads easily.] You should be able to find what you need. "Mark Falco" <> wrote in message news:Gr1MBL.Dop@lugnet.com... (...) <<..snip..>> (...) These are code fragment for (...) (23 years ago, 5-Feb-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: multiplexor and legOS
 
Ok, my last port didn't make much sense let me try that again. for an active sensor ds_handler will periodically power the sensor off to read the value. The standard firmware does this to but at a different interval. I'm wondering if this is part of (...) (23 years ago, 5-Feb-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: multiplexor and legOS
 
Since I'm now fairly sure that i've got the timing taken care of I'm wondering if the power cycling that ds_handler does is somehow causing the problem? I thought I might take control of this stuff in my test code. I assume if I set the sensor for (...) (23 years ago, 5-Feb-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: multiplexor and legOS
 
(...) It looks like the semaphore task_sm should prevent another task from being scheduled if I hold it for the length of the train. I've now tried this as well as incresing the timeslice to 100ms. It looks better but still is not consistent. Since (...) (23 years ago, 5-Feb-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: multiplexor and legOS
 
(...) Not bad. But as you say, still vulnerable to the task switching problem. (...) Instead of resorting to that, maybe there is a way to freeze task switching during critical operations. When I owned and programmed the AmigaOS (don't laugh :), (...) (23 years ago, 5-Feb-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: multiplexor and legOS
 
#include <sys/time.h> void systime_set_timeslice (unsigned char slice); include/sys/time.h:43-45: #ifdef CONF_TM #define TM_DEFAULT_SLICE 20 file://!< default multitasking timeslice #endif hope that helps, Albert "Michael J Ash" (...) (23 years ago, 4-Feb-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: multiplexor and legOS
 
(...) I agree about the cause for the msleep granularity, I'd seen the same stuff in tm and assumed that would cause the problem. Sorry my last note was a little unclear, I tried msleep and delay but am now using my own function which seems to (...) (23 years ago, 4-Feb-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: multiplexor and legOS
 
(...) I don't know about this 20ms granularity and how delay() is going to be any better. Here's the code for each function: //! delay execution allowing other tasks to run. /*! \param msec sleep duration in milliseconds \return number of (...) (23 years ago, 4-Feb-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: multiplexor and legOS
 
(...) Thanks, I'd suspected that msleep might not be very accurate but never considered that it's true granularity could be so large. I did a quick test with my current configuration and when I asked msleep to sleep for 12ms it slept for 20. This (...) (23 years ago, 4-Feb-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: true tcp/ip on the RCX
 
(...) The C64 server survived the "Slashdot attack" without problems, even though it served tenths of thousands of pages over a period of only a few hours. Since it is configured to allow only 10 simultaneous connections, it could more or less serve (...) (23 years ago, 4-Feb-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: multiplexor and legOS
 
(...) Don't ask me for a cite, but I seem to remember something about msleep only having 20ms granularity. If that's the case, your msleep(10) is either not sleeping at all or is sleeping 20ms, either one of which could cause problems. I'd suggest (...) (23 years ago, 4-Feb-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: multiplexor and legOS
 
well anyone who looked at the code I attached may have notcied that I had one of the msleeps commented out. Oops, with this now uncommented I at least see the second and third light sensors pulse on, but only for an extremely short time. Suring the (...) (23 years ago, 3-Feb-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  multiplexor and legOS
 
Does anyone have expierence using the active multiplexor sold by www.mindsensors.com with legOS? If you are not farmiluar with this multiplexor it is really cool as it lets you multiplex three active sensors on one port. You tell the mux which "sub" (...) (23 years ago, 2-Feb-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: "Local Positioning System" for lego-vehicles with mice
 
Hi, if you are interested : sources now available (URL) (23 years ago, 2-Feb-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  LNP + USB under windows
 
Hi, has anybody experience in communicating with the RCX over USB (Windows)? So far I managed to get legOS working with the USB-patch from Jin Sato; then I tried to use winLNP, but it didn't work (the light in the tower is not blinking) Now I'm (...) (23 years ago, 1-Feb-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: true tcp/ip on the RCX
 
Ok, the website is up at: (URL) Christ (23 years ago, 2-Feb-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: true tcp/ip on the RCX
 
Cool stuff, congrats on the Slashdot recognition. Hope the "Slashdot Effect" didn't totally cripple your server. Wondering if you or Olaf could make the LegOS code available for all to see, just wondering how it was all done for educational purposes (...) (23 years ago, 1-Feb-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: true tcp/ip on the RCX
 
(...) [...] (...) A few days ago, Olaf sent me his legOS TCP/IP code which I have been running a few days, so I probably have the world's second TCP/IP-enabled Lego brick in my office :-) ! I was also able to squeeze in a simple web server, a few (...) (23 years ago, 1-Feb-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  "Local Positioning System" for lego-vehicles with mice
 
Hello NG, i try to develop something like a local position system with a optical RF mouse (or other mouse-devices). If someone want to join or help for this little project please mail me. A very first result you can see at (URL) (23 years ago, 1-Feb-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Integer-based arctangent2 function for anyone interested
 
After scouring the internet for several days and even utilizing Jack Crenshaw's wonderful book "Math Toolkit for Real-time Programming", I was unable to find a good, general iatan2(y,x) function. Note that this is the atan function that takes as (...) (23 years ago, 31-Jan-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Errors compiling egcs
 
Hi, I've just downloaded and attempted to install the binutils, egcs, and LegOs on my computer as per the instructions at (URL) only difference between these instructions and what I have done is the path to where the software is to be installed. (...) (23 years ago, 31-Jan-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: which Linux distro?
 
(...) Good Idea ! I had no problem using legOS when using a RedHat 7.1, Mandrake8 or a Conectiva 6.0, As far as I remember, there is a Debian package available for legOS. So... no matter which distribution you'll use, it will be far better than (...) (23 years ago, 31-Jan-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  which Linux distro?
 
Hi, I am thinking of moving over to Linux, partly for legOS reasons (Lnp easier to set up for a start), but partly for other reasons (free software, morality etc, ie the usual waffle.) I am considering Redhat 7.2, Suse 7.3 personal or Suse 7.3 (...) (23 years ago, 31-Jan-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Incorrect result
 
(...) Yes, this is what happens when one is used to just making everything long and not considering overflows. Even worse was that I was doing the math on the computer's calculator, but not looking at the intermediate result, just typing in the (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Incorrect result
 
(...) 256 * 128 = 32768, one higher as the biggest positive integer value. The cast to long would help, but your cast is too late. I have not tested, but I think rc += ( (long)b->magnitude * (long)TA_costable[...] ) >> 7; will help. Try output in (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  RE: Incorrect result
 
<snipped code> (...) Robert, this is a classic problem with ranges of singed numbers in C rx = (long)(a->magnitude * TA_costable[a->direction]) >> 7; I don't have an RCX in frot of me, but I think you need to cast a->magnitude to long before the (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Incorrect result
 
This problem, unlike the other, is definitely not a result of my eyes/brain being tired or something. I thoroughly displayed every value before and after evaluation and the result is ***WRONG***. Here is the code and the values: typedef struct { int (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  RE: true tcp/ip on the RCX
 
Hi :) Just out of curiosity, check this thread from Jan/2000: (URL) mc. (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: true tcp/ip on the RCX
 
(...) <snip> (...) <snip> Yeah, I've got a server farm of 3 million RCXs. Each hosts errrrr... 1 page. ;-) Great job Olaf! Steve Martin IndyLUG (23 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: true tcp/ip on the RCX
 
"Olaf" <christ_o@gmx.de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:Gqo0BH.E9t@lugnet.com... (...) calls (...) <---snip----> Hi Olaf, i think it´s the wrong way to blow up the legOS kernel with a ip-stack, because you lost valuable RCX memory to legOS (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: true tcp/ip on the RCX
 
<Mr Burn's> Excellent!!! I've seen some neat ideas but, this one takes the cake hands down.... Especially that it also appeared on www.slashdot.org makes it even more impressive.. Bravo to you.. Can't wait to see the webpage.. Wayne (...) (23 years ago, 30-Jan-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: true tcp/ip on the RCX
 
I will be axiously awaiting the web page too! This has many fun/useless possibilities! Email it to me or post it on this thread if you can. thanks nate www.nullgel.com (23 years ago, 29-Jan-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: true tcp/ip on the RCX
 
plz email me the url when u get it running thx -p (...) (23 years ago, 29-Jan-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Strange behavior
 
In lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos, Robert Templeton writes: Nothing like talking to yourself :), but I did finally find the problem and it is in the code. It isn't always what's there, but what's not. Here's the offending section: (...) Instead of (...) (23 years ago, 29-Jan-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: LNP Routing daemon with tcp/ip for RCX/legOS, Cybermaster/NQC
 
Hello NG, if you are interessted : there is a newer version of lnpoi available. there was a bug in the cybermaster-driver. refer to (URL) (23 years ago, 29-Jan-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  true tcp/ip on the RCX
 
I ve got the very first and only tcp/ip enabled RCX in my room, cool, eh ? I will make a webpage at the end of the week to make the very first (rudimentary, but working) version available to the public. Right now, the tcp/ip stack is compiled into (...) (23 years ago, 28-Jan-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos) ! 
 
  Strange behavior
 
This code was working last night, but I removed some superfluous functions copied with the set (such as moveBackward() and pivotRight()) since they were not being used. All of a sudden, the robot turns okay, but never moves forward. It just sits (...) (23 years ago, 28-Jan-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: newbie
 
Hi Paula, While NQC is a nice place to start, you might want to consider LEJOS which, like legOS has its own firmware but it uses Java instead of C. It can do much more than NQC, and is quite bug free. Find out more at (URL) luck. (...) (23 years ago, 25-Jan-02, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)


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