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 Robotics / Handy Board / *4944 (-40)
  LCD configs (was:Suppliers and rf link)
 
(...) I just wanted to voice a warning of sorts. I ordered the 2 X 16 LCD from them and the pinout is slightly different. Instead of a single line of 14 pins: x x x x x x x x x x x x x x They come with a dual inline 2x7 pin configuration: x x x x x (...) (26 years ago, 12-Dec-98, to lugnet.robotics.handyboard)
 
  Thanks
 
I'd like to thank everybody who sent me all this valuable information about suppliers and rf link. I think now I can make my handyboard with less then US$ 60.00 without the batteries and motor drivers (I want to use it in data acquisition). As I (...) (26 years ago, 12-Dec-98, to lugnet.robotics.handyboard)
 
  Re: Suppliers and rf link
 
Cesar, Nuts & Volts magazine caries lots of adds for just the sort of thing you need (www.nutsvolts.com). I wanted to mention here the 2 X 16 and 2 X 20 LCD displays which are on sale for $8.00 each at www.flat-panel.com. Hope this helps Pherd (26 years ago, 12-Dec-98, to lugnet.robotics.handyboard)
 
  config download problems
 
Hi I am building a handyboard from scratch after finding it on the net. I actually purchased two pcb's from Douglas Electronics. An aside, they were great to deal with answering all my questions promptly and efficiently. I built the first hb and had (...) (26 years ago, 12-Dec-98, to lugnet.robotics.handyboard)
 
  Source of 68HC11 in UK?
 
Does anyone know of a supplier for the 68HC11 in the UK? Also any handyboard suppliers in UK. Peter (26 years ago, 12-Dec-98, to lugnet.robotics.handyboard)
 
  Is my serial interface shot?
 
I get the message "Board disconnected or not responding" when I try to run ic. (The board was working fine before).So I tried to re load the pcode, but I have run into a slight problem: With the serial interface disconnected, I hold down the stop (...) (26 years ago, 11-Dec-98, to lugnet.robotics.handyboard)
 
  Re: How to get digital outputs from the handyboard???...???
 
(...) First, to enable the four SPI pins D2 through D5 as digital outputs, make sure you do a bit_set( 0x1009, 0x3C ). (In the sonar.c program, for example, bit_set( 0x1009, 0x30 ) seems to only enable two of the pins--not all four). I think poke (...) (26 years ago, 11-Dec-98, to lugnet.robotics.handyboard)
 
  RE: Suppliers and rf link
 
Yeah, BGMicro is good, they seem to have a neverending supply of used 68HC11A1FN chips for $6.95. If you want new, try: Future/Active voice 1-800-655-0006 fax 1-800-645-2953 (no internet address) 41 Main St. Bolton, MA 01740 USA They list the chips (...) (26 years ago, 11-Dec-98, to lugnet.robotics.handyboard)
 
  RE: Suppliers and rf link
 
www.bgmicro.com Nice people, good service (they sent me spec sheets once without me ordering!) HC11's for about $6.95 or so, and they have almost every part you'll need for a HB, miniboard or Rug Warrior board. (MAX233 chips, 32k RAM, crystals, (...) (26 years ago, 11-Dec-98, to lugnet.robotics.handyboard)
 
  RE: Suppliers and rf link
 
(...) As someone mentioned earlier (and I can attest to the accuracy) www.bgmicro.com sells the 68HC11 for something like $6 to $8. I bought two and they arrived in only a few days. john calhoun- (26 years ago, 11-Dec-98, to lugnet.robotics.handyboard)
 
  RE: Suppliers and rf link
 
I bought most of the parts from the following: www.mouser.com www.digikey.com www.jameco.com The 68HC11 will be the most dificult to find. (26 years ago, 11-Dec-98, to lugnet.robotics.handyboard)
 
  Stepper vs DC
 
after reading your mails, it seems to me that the dc motor is better than the stepper motor. doesn't the stepper motor offer any advantages over the dc motor? is the stepper motor that bad? edmund. (26 years ago, 10-Dec-98, to lugnet.robotics.handyboard)
 
  Re: Servos for the miniboard
 
Jonathan, I would probably go with a futaba servo. I dunno how much torque you need, but for a small(up to .30 cubic inch displacement, maybe even .60) engine, the s148 does the job quite nicely. Tower hobbies sells them for $14, and they can be (...) (26 years ago, 10-Dec-98, to lugnet.robotics.handyboard)
 
  Suppliers and rf link
 
Hi friends! I need some help from you, it's being very difficult to obtain the parts to make my Handy Board here in Brazil. I'm buying one from Hong Kong, but I'd like to buy some extra 68hc11s and lcds, between other things. I have relatives in the (...) (26 years ago, 10-Dec-98, to lugnet.robotics.handyboard)
 
  Re: Re. RF data link
 
In response to rf link, How about standard wireless modems? I know of a few which are made specifically for this purpose and baud rates are between 300-9600 baud ,you set the rate according to your robots capabilities. If you are interested conact (...) (26 years ago, 10-Dec-98, to lugnet.robotics.handyboard)
 
  Fwd: Re. RF data link
 
-- MIME ATTACHMENTS DISCARDED: 1. Content-ID: <0_913320756@inet_ou...aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Content-Length: 1259 (26 years ago, 10-Dec-98, to lugnet.robotics.handyboard)
 
  How to get digital outputs from the handyboard???...???
 
hi everyone, i have been trying for the past few days to get digital outputs from the board but with no success. i have been trying to get digitals outputs from the SPI's pins (J6). i have poke to make the port as output port. but the problem now is (...) (26 years ago, 10-Dec-98, to lugnet.robotics.handyboard)
 
  Servos for the miniboard
 
I would like to use a servo to operate the throttle of a small gas engine. I am planning on using the miniboard to control the servo. Are there any brands to avoid? Are there any brands that are far better than the rest? Will just about any RC servo (...) (26 years ago, 10-Dec-98, to lugnet.robotics.handyboard)
 
  How to get digital outputs from the handyboard???...???
 
hi everyone, i have been trying for the past few days to get digital outputs from the board but with no success. i have been trying to get digitals outputs from the SPI's pins (J6). i have poke to make the port as output port. but the problem now is (...) (26 years ago, 10-Dec-98, to lugnet.robotics.handyboard)
 
  How to get digital outputs from the handyboard???...???
 
hi everyone, i have been trying for the past few days to get digital outputs from the board but with no success. i have been trying to get digitals outputs from the SPI's pins (J6). i have poke to make the port as output port. but the problem now is (...) (26 years ago, 10-Dec-98, to lugnet.robotics.handyboard)
 
  Re: Stepper vs DC
 
It depends. if you are looking for higher top speed and more torque using less power, DC may be the way to go. If you want accuracy but don't want to deal with shaft encoders and the code overhead needed to precisely control and monitor your DC (...) (26 years ago, 10-Dec-98, to lugnet.robotics.handyboard)
 
  stepper motors from 5 1/4 drives
 
Okay, another newbie question: What do I need to take out of the 5 1/4 drive, other than the motor to get this to work? Also, what about drivers for the same? Anyplace I can get more info on this? I have a bunch of old drives laying around. thanks (...) (26 years ago, 10-Dec-98, to lugnet.robotics.handyboard)
 
  Re: Stepper vs DC
 
(...) Actually, steppers do have some advantages. 1) If you do not have encoders on DC gearhead motors (or wheels, etc) they are notoriously hard to position accurately. Steppers can be controlled very accurately. Most servo motors cannot rotate (...) (26 years ago, 10-Dec-98, to lugnet.robotics.handyboard)
 
  Re: Do It Yourself RF module????
 
Bastiaan: I wanted to suggest that you investigate the Ham Radio community. Some search words to help get you started include PACKET and ARRL. The first is one of the digital communications protocalls used in Ham Radio, and the second is an (...) (26 years ago, 10-Dec-98, to lugnet.robotics.handyboard)
 
  Re. RF data link
 
If the data tx/rx modules can't handle TTL levels is there any reason to have the interface board at the PC end ?, why not replace the serial cable going to the PC with the rx/tx modules ?. Surely this should work. John (26 years ago, 10-Dec-98, to lugnet.robotics.handyboard)
 
  Re: DC Motor movement
 
(...) Each motor may have slightly different characteristics even though they may be the same brand and model. This is what you are probably seeing. The ultimate solution is to use a feedback mechanism, like a shaft encoder, on the motors and use (...) (26 years ago, 10-Dec-98, to lugnet.robotics.handyboard)
 
  Re: Newbie Questions, Problems & Contributions...
 
(...) I've heard the difference is that the buttons, the knob and the sensor ports won't work as expected. Try moving pcode_hb.s19 to the directory that contains the dl executable, or to the present working directory, or to the directory specified (...) (26 years ago, 9-Dec-98, to lugnet.robotics.handyboard)
 
  Re: Question for Fred
 
have you tried re-loading pcode_hb.s19 using a downloader program. fred In your message you said: (...) (26 years ago, 9-Dec-98, to lugnet.robotics.handyboard)
 
  Re: Question for Fred
 
Hello this is mike, I am writing regarding the handy board. What happened was while working on the handy board, our motor control (the H-bridge) heat sink touch the metal chassis of our robot. This lead to one of the components on our H-bridge to (...) (26 years ago, 9-Dec-98, to lugnet.robotics.handyboard)
 
  Re: Question for Fred
 
hello, i use the handyboard for closed loop position control. the handyboard is good for such a task provided that you choose a motor well suited for the task, and an accurate feedback element, such as a (very) linear pot or optical encoder. as for (...) (26 years ago, 9-Dec-98, to lugnet.robotics.handyboard)
 
  RE: persistent var's in IC
 
I had a similar problem using the freeware IC and I found that things like the position in the code at which the persistent array was initialised made a difference. Eg put the initialisation of the array right at the beginning of your code, this (...) (26 years ago, 9-Dec-98, to lugnet.robotics.handyboard)
 
  Question for Fred
 
Hi Fred I have question for you. I have to control a position using the miniborad or the handyboard. And I don't know which motors is good the DC servo motor or the stepper motor and whats the diffrence? Another question if you don't mind, have you (...) (26 years ago, 9-Dec-98, to lugnet.robotics.handyboard)
 
  DC Motor movement
 
hi, The following command will cause the DC motor to rotote one after other according to the std lib and the command. hence, the robot will gradually slanted. It cannot travelled in a straight. motor (2, 100); motor (3,100); My question : how to (...) (26 years ago, 9-Dec-98, to lugnet.robotics.handyboard)
 
  Newbie Questions, Problems & Contributions...
 
Hi, I have few newbie questions, and a contribution to make... Background info: ---...--- I have been playing with my HB for a week now, using the free IC 2.850 under NTServer4.0... So far, Ive been sucessfully able to control DC motors, send (...) (26 years ago, 9-Dec-98, to lugnet.robotics.handyboard)
 
  Where i can buy?
 
I try to buy the flash ram type NM29A040 or TC58A040. Or another type of serial ram eeprom for my HB. But i don't know where i can find,buy it. Does anyone know who sell on-line, this IC's. Thank Fede. E-mail: fedsante@tin.it (26 years ago, 8-Dec-98, to lugnet.robotics.handyboard)
 
  RE: Question for Fred
 
That's a funny question. I just finished a class on this exact topic. The basic determining factors when deciding whether to use a stepper motor or a DC brush/less servo motor is speed and open/closed loop control. Stepper motors are limited to (...) (26 years ago, 8-Dec-98, to lugnet.robotics.handyboard)
 
  Do It Yourself RF module????
 
Hi, Now that the topic of RF commucation seems to arise again, I have a question too. After looking at the RF modules of radiometrix and linx I concluded that: 1. They are too expensive 2. They are probably not available here in the netherlands (...) (26 years ago, 8-Dec-98, to lugnet.robotics.handyboard)
 
  RE: Help with overcharged batteries
 
<<Last night we discovered that we had left our Handyboard on ZAP when we thought <<we had left it to trickle. It was left at this condition for about 6 hours. You probably should remove the battery pack, put it in a baggie, and take it to Radio (...) (26 years ago, 8-Dec-98, to lugnet.robotics.handyboard)
 
  RE: Serial interface/ RF data link
 
<<snip>> Unfortunately, I have not had any luck. This brings me back to the first point- is it possible to use the serial interface board by just providing the tx and rx lines? <<snip>> In short, no. The serial interface board takes power from the (...) (26 years ago, 8-Dec-98, to lugnet.robotics.handyboard)
 
  persistent var's in IC
 
Has anyone had problames with the Handyboard, IC 3.2 and 'persistent' variables? the following declaration works fine : persistent float i; but using an array: persistent float battery_voltage[ 320 ]; always causes an error while downloading : IC> (...) (26 years ago, 8-Dec-98, to lugnet.robotics.handyboard)


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