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Re: Relativity Question
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Tue, 7 Nov 2000 22:08:53 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.geek, Dan Boger writes:
> (trimmed out .space - they don't care!)
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> On Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 08:56:55PM +0000, Dave Schuler wrote:
> > > laf. That's the paradox. I think we won't know until we try it. I've seen
> > > physicists get cross eyed thinking about it. Some say that _no_ time
> > > will pass at all!
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> > As I understand it, the time dilation will occur for the occupant of the
> > fast-moving ship, who will experience dilation relative to the stationery
> > observer. The traveler won't notice the slowing of time, since everything
> > in his frame of reference will likewise be slowed. As such, the stationery
> > observer is the one who will experience 20 years' worth of time.
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> but isn't that the whole point of relativity? who's moving and who's
> standing still?
Well, I usually like to consider myself the Lorenz Reference Point of the
universe, so it's anyone who's accelerating relative to me!
Seriously, I see what you're saying--to the person in the ship, the
"stationary observer" (which, by the way, I mistyped as "stationery
observer," who spends his time watching envelopes) appear to accelerate away
in the opposite direction. To which I say, let me think about it. I'm at
work now and have to leave in about a minute, but I know I have some
material on this subject at home. I'll post an actual reply a little later.
As a quick thought, I think the occupant of the ship, who is moving
relative to the inertial reference frame of the stationary observer, which
includes the space around the observer. Local space as a whole isn't moving
away with the traveler, so the time dilation occurs for the person leaving
the inertial reference frame.
More later,
Dave!
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