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| | | (...) Yes, but dirt, wet, straps torn off, scratches, or rips in the material are all "normal wear and tear", so, **essentially**, no. (26 years ago, 7-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | Re: Carryon vs. checked (Re: WTB: 6557 (really, really badly) and 6861 —Mike Stanley
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| | | | (...) I would think that if you forced an airline employee to sign a receipt for your luggage stating that it had none of those things that if you get it back with damage you can demonstrate that it wasn't nomral wear and tear YOU caused. A pipe (...) (26 years ago, 7-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | Re: Carryon vs. checked (Re: WTB: 6557 (really, really badly) and 6861 —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | (...) I've tried. They won't. You can waste lots of time trying, though. Also, it doesn't matter the cause, the point is that they claim that rips THEY cause are part of the luggage "protecting its contents" process and therefore normal. Therefore I (...) (26 years ago, 8-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | Re: Carryon vs. checked (Re: WTB: 6557 (really, really badly) and 6861 —Tom McDonald
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| | | | | | | (...) <snipped Mr. Nice Guy> <Customer relations anecdote> Having once worked as a bank teller I try to do the same thing because I really appreciated it when folks that had problems would come in and calmly state their case, and then patiently wait (...) (26 years ago, 8-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Carryon vs. checked (Re: WTB: 6557 (really, really badly) and 6861 —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | (...) No, it requires luggage handling equipment that does not mangle luggage. Most rips occur because the equipment is not properly designed, or was not properly maintained. Since this is typically a shared resource, owned by the airport itself, (...) (26 years ago, 8-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Carryon vs. checked (Re: WTB: 6557 (really, really badly) and 6861 —Jasper Janssen
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Privatisation also has a history of making stuff a hell of a lot more expensive. Frex, the trains system here has been privatised a few years ago. Now, the gummint has to pay the NS more money to support them, than that the loss used to be (...) (26 years ago, 9-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Carryon vs. checked (Re: WTB: 6557 (really, really badly) and 6861 —Richard Dee
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| | | | | | | | On Mon, 8 Mar 1999 04:34:02 GMT, Larry Pieniazek uttered the following profundities... (...) How true. The airports sell a system to the airlines, extolling the virtues of its wonderful new technology. It fails frequently, is usually designed for (...) (26 years ago, 9-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Carryon vs. checked (Re: WTB: 6557 (really, really badly) and 6861 —Jasper Janssen
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Sounds _exactly_ like my cable-modem provider. Jasper (26 years ago, 11-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Carryon vs. checked (Re: WTB: 6557 (really, really badly) and 6861 —Beth Reiten
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| | | | | | | | | The best idea I've heard yet for calming down the anxieties of airports! First airport in line PLEASE be Detroit!!! With a separate cleaning staff, only for that room... so it might get done. Sorry. I'd been trying to figure out how my whimpering (...) (26 years ago, 12-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Carryon vs. checked (Re: WTB: 6557 (really, really badly) and 6861 —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | | | (...) You just never know what will kick off a thread around here... Steve (26 years ago, 12-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | Re: Carryon vs. checked (Re: WTB: 6557 (really, really badly) and 6861 —Jasper Janssen
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| | | | | | (...) _bumped_ from a flight? You mean, as in, you've payed for a ticket, plane leaves on time, you were there, but there was no room for you because some bigwig payed them bigtime to get in ahead of you? Is that _legal_?! Jasper (26 years ago, 9-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Carryon vs. checked (Re: WTB: 6557 (really, really badly) and 6861 —Jeremy H. Sproat
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| | | | | | | (...) Not only legal, but a completely normal daily business practice. I understand the interest they make on tickets paid for bumped flights is staggering. And that's my conspiracy theory of the day. Cheers, - jsproat (26 years ago, 9-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Carryon vs. checked (Re: WTB: 6557 (really, really badly) and 6861 —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | (...) It's not a matter of who paid how much. Airlines overbook. That usually works because not everyone shows up. When they all do, the airlines are required to first ask for volunteers to give up their seats in exchange for a payment of the (...) (26 years ago, 9-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Carryon vs. checked (Re: WTB: 6557 (really, really badly) and 6861 —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | | | Side note: you can also "fly on stand-by", which means you're the first to go if there isn't enough room. It's cheaper than regular tickets, but I'm not sure by how much. Or if you get less compensation if you are bumped to a later flight. Steve (...) (26 years ago, 9-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Carryon vs. checked (Re: WTB: 6557 (really, really badly) and 6861 —Mark de Kock
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| | | | | | | (...) Naah.. I think _bumped_from_a_flight means: you're flying over the ocean. Plane hits a speedbump and whoops..there you go. From 15 km hight falling towards the (at that speed rock-hard) water... Mark (26 years ago, 9-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Carryon vs. checked (Re: WTB: 6557 (really, really badly) and 6861 —Steven Vore
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| | | | | | Yes, see for example this headline from last week's Atlanta Journal/Constitution - "OVERBOOKED: Delta 'denied' 13,449: Atlanta air carrier ranks seventh among U.S. airlines" During the past year(?) they had to turn that many people involuntarily. (...) (26 years ago, 11-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Carryon vs. checked (Re: WTB: 6557 (really, really badly) and 6861 —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | (...) Won't happen, I would usually already have volunteered (I volunteer on Fridays but not on Sundays as I have more flexibility at the start). (...) and maybe your load factor was lower... the typical hotel load factor averages in the 60s these (...) (26 years ago, 11-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Carryon vs. checked (Re: WTB: 6557 (really, really badly) and 6861 —Steven Vore
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| | | | | | | | (...) have (...) Ah, well... if you've volunteered then they don't count it as a "bump" - though you, the customer, might of course still do so. -- Steven | svore at mindspring .com | kf4fbk | TC++MS++#15LS+M+HalYB64m (26 years ago, 11-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Carryon vs. checked (Re: WTB: 6557 (really, really badly) and 6861 —James Brown
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| | | | | | (...) This reminded me of my "twilight zone" trip two years ago - driving across the states as a vacation(1) ended up hitting Minneapolis fairly late - tried to get a room and to misuse a quote "there were none to be found" after trying about 8 (...) (26 years ago, 11-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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| | | | | | Re: Carryon vs. checked (Re: WTB: 6557 (really, really badly) and 6861 —Jasper Janssen
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| | | | (...) _forced_ an airline employee? I think they'd be much happier to lose your custom than to set _that_ precedent. Jasper "flown twice in my life - there and back" Janssen (26 years ago, 9-Mar-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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