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(...) I actually liked Mars Attacks, but I thought T5E tried to take itself too seriously, while at the same time trying to be light-hearted...with a deep philosophical message. It's theme is just to muddied and contradictory for me. (...) At what (...) (20 years ago, 26-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) And after puzzling out that you meant The 5th Element...there was a deep philosphical message? (rhetorical alert) :-) (...) Pardon me, poor choice of words. "...landmark game in its time" is what I meant to say. Wing Commander the game was (...) (20 years ago, 26-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Actually, I'm of the mind that WC is a real classic. It came out about the early 90's and it *was* a landmark. Graphics, sound, and most important: Plot. The missions you flew had a success or fail tree, so if you kept winning you drove the (...) (20 years ago, 26-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) There was an attempt at one (that's the whole point of the way the ending played out, and the name of the movie itself), though it fell pretty flat. (...) MST3K = Mystery Science Theatre 3000. They take all of the worst movies that they can (...) (20 years ago, 26-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Well, few are the sci-fi films that successfully carry a deep philosophical message. The Star Wars OT, for instance, seemed to suggest that you can be as evil, sadistic, and murderous as you want, as long as you kill one bad guy before you (...) (20 years ago, 26-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) <snip> (...) <snip> (...) I'm sorry, but for my money, 6 was 'perfect' trek--as perfect as one could get in the Star Trek universe--you have the 'moral story' that Roddenberry liked to do, like eps--'A Private Little War' and the one with (...) (20 years ago, 26-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) I can't remember what the first two were in relation to, so pardon me if I think they were not memorable. The last was a self-parodying line that got laughs but cheapened the whole. Played to the Trekkies rather than it's own internal value. (...) (20 years ago, 26-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) One minor point that bothered me was how Ensign Slater just let himself into Capt. Sulu's quarters to wake Sulu, and how Kirk later just let himself into Spock's quarters. It all suggests a level of familiarity not customarily found on (...) (20 years ago, 26-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun, FTX)
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(...) I think it is a matter of perception. You regard it as a deep philsophical message, and perhaps that is a fair depiction of it, but I regarded it simply as a step back from trivializing it. The movie was uneven all the way through, so this was (...) (20 years ago, 26-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) The OT was constructed in the Epic tradition, with archetypal characters playing archetypal roles in an archetypal battle of Good vs. Evil. There's more to be found in the way the mythological pattern plays itself out than in any supposed deep (...) (20 years ago, 26-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Dave Schuler wrote: <snip> (...) Since we're talking Trek, let's talk about some of our favourite eps from TOS-- Corbomite Maneuver - was first season, which helps, and knowing that the kid is Richie Cunningham's older (...) (20 years ago, 26-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) No, I regard it as a failed attempt at a deep philosophical message. (...) I think that in this case it has more to do with how long and clumsy the title is. I've only watched a couple eps myself (not having access to Comedy Central, or (...) (20 years ago, 26-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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(...) Sorry, I didn't type "failed attempt" in as I meant to. The point is that I don't agree with your assessment that they were trying to be deeply philosophical, but rather not simply frivolous. (...) 1. "Public Knowledge": The only people who (...) (20 years ago, 27-Aug-04, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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