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		Re: What about the first?
(...) No, but if you do, then perhaps you should attend to yourself before lecturing others. (major snip) (...) I read where you were running on about someone hating Islam, which has nothing to do with the subject at hand, so I simply deleted it as (...) (22 years ago, 19-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

bruce
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		Re: What about the first?
(...) One can point to individuals in both parties in letting Enron go wild, but it really was the baby of the Republicans. Bush loved 'em. As to the oft-repeated but inaccurate claims that the environmentalists had somehow blocked construction of (...) (22 years ago, 19-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

bruce
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		Re: What about the first?
(...) Wrong in the sense that I never said that U.S. companies do not benefit from Middle Eastern oil in any way. Dave is saying we want their oil because we are sucking up so much Middle Eastern oil (and specifically Iraqi oil) with our SUVs. My (...) (22 years ago, 19-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

bruce
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		Re: What about the first?
(...) "I take it then, that Canadians aren't buying SUVs?" If you are going to castigate Americans for something that Canadians are doing (wasting oil through self-indulgence), you aren't going to garner a lot of respect for whatever point you are (...) (22 years ago, 18-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

bruce
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		Re: What about the first?
(...) Good for them, but that doesn't answer my question. :-) (...) But this was not the point you were making. How can you castigate the United States for its policy in regards to Iraq on the basis of the US trying to portray everyone as a bad man? (...) (22 years ago, 18-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

bruce
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		Re: What about the first?
(...) There ain't nothing you can say about Steinbrenner that can upset me. Unless of course, if you refer to this Dodger fan as a "Yankee". :-) (...) It shouldn't be too hard to guess where France's oil comes from, that's for sure. :-) (...) Which (...) (22 years ago, 18-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

bruce
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		Re: Being properly servile
(...) (eager to please) How shall I "ef" off, oh lord? ;-) -->Bruce<-- (22 years ago, 14-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

bruce
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		Re: Question for the Conservatives out there
(...) Well, what does it say to you, exactly? Franks' interview in Cigar Afficianado is now a matter of public record, so it's fair game for my question. I've never seen (URL) The Siege>, so I can't comment on the relevance of that piece of fiction (...) (20 years ago, 4-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

half
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		Re: The nature of property (was: Idiots, Part Deux)
(...) Yes, it makes sense. There are certain rights that virtually everyone wants for themselves, so we make a compact with the others in a given group to acknowledge that it is best for all concerned that we grant those rights to all within the (...) (22 years ago, 14-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

bruce
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		Re: What the Confederate flag stands for. (was Re: Just wh...)
(...) I would have to argue that Mike isn't quite understanding what he wrote. Slavery was central but a secondary issue? No, it is either not central, or it wasn't a secondary issue. The chain of events over the previous decade makes it fairly (...) (22 years ago, 14-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

bruce
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		Re: What the Confederate flag stands for. (was Re: Just wh...)
(...) But it should be noted that the election of Lincoln was the catalyst for the war, despite the numerous other factors that seperated north and south. I can't recall any school teachers that said the Civil War was about freeing the slaves (...) (22 years ago, 14-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

bruce
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		Re: Vague abstract debate that puts people to sleep?
(...) The whole "everything can be called property rights" seems so leaden to me. I won't argue it either way - it just seems like a game of semantics to me. What I could add is pendantic: Chris is right from a the single sale point on value, but (...) (22 years ago, 14-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

bruce
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		Re: Future Speech Text of George W. Bush?
(...) Why don't you please note the actual speech, the actual circumstances and then we can compare and contrast it with Bush, instead of this partisan, self-serving attack? And why do I get the feeling that you lifted this "speech" from some (...) (22 years ago, 13-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

bruce
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		Re: Future Speech Text of George W. Bush?
(...) Okay then, we can sweep the "It's all the Left's fault" verbiage aside. Desert Fox was in response to Iraq expelling the UN Inspectors, and the response was far less than the full-scale invasion that Bush is threatening as a unilateral action (...) (22 years ago, 13-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

bruce
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		Re: Just when I keep on thinking that I'd have nothing else to rant about...
(...) When they vote against my interests, I'm happy to have them stay home if they like. I'd even arrange to have non-stop wrestle-mania to encourage them. :-) (...) They don't want lazy democrats worked up, black or otherwise. It'll give (...) (22 years ago, 12-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

bruce
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		Re: The beginning of the end of NATO?
(...) Usually the list of Who The US Won't Sell To is the same as the list that France Will Sell To. Pretty much where there is a demand, there will be a supply. As to meddling, David (not Dave!), at what point should the US have stopped "medlling" (...) (22 years ago, 12-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

bruce
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		Re: The beginning of the end of NATO?
(...) I believe any politician will do such, but some more than others (Dubya!). war? Seems to me an oxymoron. Justifiable, maybe - I suppose a war (...) Okay, I was being pendantic. But the resolution the UN passed made it look fairly legal (...) (22 years ago, 12-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

bruce
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		Re: The beginning of the end of NATO?
(...) I pretty much figured all this, but I thought you might want an opportunity to explain further. :-) (...) I think the UN has do a less slacker-like performance in regards to its sanctions against Iraq if it wants to have any moral authority, (...) (22 years ago, 12-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

bruce
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		Re: The beginning of the end of NATO?
(...) I think the U.S. public is becoming wary of Bush's motivation. They may not like Saddam Hussein, but the Al Queda connection is tenuous at the very best. (...) Those governments that support the US against the wishes of their citizens may find (...) (22 years ago, 12-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

bruce
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		Re: THIS is why this whole war is a waste of time. - NO ITS NOT - GO BUILD SOME LEGO!!
(...) Great job Bruce, you were able to nail down two of my biggest problems with the Republican party, the reason I am an independant instead. You also summed them up very nicely. I agree the government should not reserve the right to kill it's (...) (21 years ago, 10-Apr-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

bruce
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