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		Re: What's Good for the Goose....
(...) Because he has no problem with any other group forming using race as a basis for its existence! Black clubs and Asian clubs also "smack of racial division", but somehow they are of no concern to him. (...) I can too, but hello?! we are not in (...) (21 years ago, 23-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: The Blood of Patriots & Tyrants (was Re: Sticking my gun...etc.)
(...) Nicely stated Larry. There was a discusion earlier differentiating between accidents and homicides--people dying in mining or oil platform accidents is tragic, but is not the same as willfully taking another life in an act of homicide. (...) (21 years ago, 26-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: The Blood of Patriots & Tyrants (was Re: Sticking my gun...etc.)
(...) Nicely stated Larry. There was a discusion earlier differentiating between accidents and homicides--people dying in mining or oil platform accidents is tragic, but is not the same as willfully taking another life in an act of homicide. (...) (21 years ago, 26-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		CA Recall Election Comments
I wrote this last night... ~~~...~~~ Huffington is a smart lady, but after tonight's debate I am finding her a little shallow and divisive. It's not that I really disagree with what she has to say, it's just that she seems to go about certain things (...) (21 years ago, 25-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		He won me over...
(URL) convinced. Dubya was right all along. He showed that SH had lots of WoMD ready to be deployed in minutes at Americans. He apologised for 'freedom fried' and the other insults directed at France and Gemany. He talked of giving the UN full (...) (21 years ago, 23-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		top 10 conservative idiots is exceptoinally good this week...
(URL) Pentagon Remember all those so-called "support the troops" rallies that took place before the invasion of Iraq?...I often wonder where those people are now - I mean, you don't see a lot of them around. Waving flags, parading in the streets, (...) (21 years ago, 22-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Sticking my gun where it doesn't belong...
(...) What exactly are you looking for here? Anecdotal evidence that a gun and self-reliance are political necessaries? If you don't believe that then nothing I say will change your mind. I guess I could tell you a story, but then you'd just tell me (...) (21 years ago, 22-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Kennedy's 'Texas' remark stirs GOP reaction
(...) The response from Dubya... (URL) it's Fox News, that 'fair and balanced' site... but it's a matter of convenience) " The comments also made President Bush bristle. In an exclusive interview with Fox News, the president called Kennedy's remarks (...) (21 years ago, 24-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: The Blood of Patriots & Tyrants (was Re: Sticking my gun...etc.)
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti wrote: It's absolutely amazing how you keep missing the point. Let's just snip everything and go on a tirade that has nothing to do with the issue at hand, nor deal with any point that was raised. In the (...) (21 years ago, 24-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		The Blood of Patriots & Tyrants (was Re: Sticking my gun...etc.)
From Thomas Jefferson to William Smith Paris, November 13, 1787 Dear Sir, -- I am now to acknowledge the receipt of your favors of October the 4th, 8th, & 26th. In the last you apologise for your letters of introduction to Americans coming here. It (...) (21 years ago, 23-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Sticking my gun where it doesn't belong...
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti wrote: <snip> (...) Well if ya wanna talk traffic, then that's a different kettle of fish. I was once driving to Toronto every weekend from work. On a good day it would be a 30 minute drive. On a bad (...) (21 years ago, 23-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Kennedy's 'Texas' remark stirs GOP reaction
Kennedy's 'Texas' remark stirs GOP reaction (URL) He said Bush officials had failed to account for $1.5 billion of the $4 billion the war costs each month, citing a recent report by the Congressional Budget Office. "My belief is this money is being (...) (21 years ago, 19-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: The Blood of Patriots & Tyrants (was Re: Sticking my gun...etc.)
(...) <snip to the part which I believe, is the relavent part to this discussion> (...) <snip> TJ was a thoughtful and thorougly well versed man. For 1786. First, it's a letter, not a law, nor part of the constitution. If this 'preserving democracy (...) (21 years ago, 23-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: The Blood of Patriots & Tyrants (was Re: Sticking my gun...etc.)
(...) Apples and oranges, Kooties. Xtian authorities have nothing to do with civil laws. My higher authority was variously a founder of my country, one of its primary legal authors, and an incredibly politically influential person besides. (...) (...) (21 years ago, 23-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: The Blood of Patriots & Tyrants (was Re: Sticking my gun...etc.)
(...) Not according to your current president, or some ex-judge stating that your judicial system is based on the 10 commandments--these political people are appealing to God and the Bible. I'd say it's a difference b/w Macintosh and Golden (...) (21 years ago, 23-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Sticking my gun where it doesn't belong...
(...) The opinions of a handful of politicians are irrelavent (as if they would be honest about it anyway.) You (and your politicians) can believe whatever hippy notions you want about the power of the people, but the real power of the people comes (...) (21 years ago, 23-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Sticking my gun where it doesn't belong...
(...) So what? All you've done is show that people are smart enough to use the best tool for a certain task -- if you intend to kill someone a gun is a good choice for that job. In a sense, if you could eliminate a person's motivation to kill you (...) (21 years ago, 18-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: What's Good for the Goose....
(...) This illustrates why I think essentially social clubs shouldn't be sanctioned by high schools - the reason the minority clubs formed is because whites wouldn't let them into any of the already established clubs. Perhaps the whole idea is (...) (21 years ago, 22-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Liberty vs. Socialism
(...) Sure they are. Show me a socialist country where you are free, in all senses of the word. (21 years ago, 19-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Liberty vs. Socialism
(...) This is a false argument; there is no country which is "free in all senses of the word". Just like there is no country which is completely socialist or completely free market. (...) I agree; the centre-left approach to life in Norway, Sweden (...) (21 years ago, 19-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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