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		Re: codifying marriage on biblical principles
(...) Well, now I'm confused. Granted, the four magi Dave, Todd, Tim, and Jake are four LUGNET sources, but to LUGNET-savvy people they represent four discrete voices. However, to a non-LUGNET person, all four are subsumed under LUGNET and therefore (...) (21 years ago, 15-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
(...) See, where Libertopia differs from other -topias is fundamental. First, we are not claiming that it's perfect. Instead, we claim there IS no perfection in society. There always will be situations where things turn out unfairly (is a freak (...) (25 years ago, 1-Jan-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Terrorists hate freedom
(...) It does. There are different kinds of religions. Changing a popular or materially well resourced religion is no small thing. But even Christianity got over this when essentially left to its own devices. Mind you, in the hundreds of years it (...) (21 years ago, 14-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: codifying marriage on biblical principles
(...) I've got a bolo tie... (...) I read that too early in my life-- never got it. (...) lol Just rented that to watch with my son a while back (catching him up on all of the classics:-) (...) lol If you are going to lob a fat one over the plate, (...) (21 years ago, 11-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Terrorists hate freedom
(...) I fear you still don't get it. I am talking about killing an innocent (unrelated to your oppression) in order to free you from your oppressor. I am saying that that action is morally unjustified. (...) WRT to Iraq, the US took great care to (...) (21 years ago, 14-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Terrorists hate freedom
(...) No wonder I didn't get it. I would never have thought that I needed a moral justification for freeing myself from 'evil oppression'. I'll think on this some more. (snip) (...) I am not sure that there is a useful difference between the concept (...) (21 years ago, 14-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Terrorists hate freedom
(...) lol I'll gladly drop it:-) (...) I'm curious. If WMDs were discovered to have been smuggled off to Syria, would Bush be exonerated in your estimation? (regardless of whether you thought attacking Iraq was a good idea or not) (...) I believe (...) (21 years ago, 14-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: codifying marriage on biblical principles
(...) Let me clarify: I believe it is totally appropriate to threaten any and all leaders of any nation who aid and abett terrorists who threaten our national security. (...) Against a greater threat, namely the USSR. (...) Against a greater threat, (...) (21 years ago, 10-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Terrorists hate spelling properly
(...) Well, Bruce old man, you sat me back on my heels there for a minute, but no, this is not an error, just yet more American Imperialism and intolerance! 'If you don't do it like me you must be wrong'. Top marks. Next you'll be explaining to me (...) (21 years ago, 14-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Terrorists hate freedom
(...) But a land invasion was tried first! "Oh well, that didn't work looks like more innocents will die that way, lets go with the nuke and see how well that works". And they didn't stop at one to see if it worked, they killed many more thousands (...) (21 years ago, 14-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Terrorists hate freedom
(...) I think Richard was talking about the "givens" that they have been held for up to 2 years without being charged, in the name of "security". Something that the administration would frown upon in the name of freedom. (...) Women, pregnant women, (...) (21 years ago, 14-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: Terrorists hate freedom
(...) There are so many different legal issues-- definitions of POWs and of being "at war" and the Geneva Convention and whatnot. It's lawyer stuff and I really try to avoid it. That doesn't mean that there aren't people out there who aren't on up (...) (21 years ago, 14-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: codifying marriage on biblical principles
(...) Er-hem. I know what you are trying to get at, I'm just trying to point out that your examples aren't exactly the best for doing that (and mostly just to give you are hard time for humor's sake). In your example above, all that's true, but it's (...) (21 years ago, 12-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Goodness of Man? (was: Re: Merry Christmas from the Libertarian Party
(...) We've been around this particular mulberry bush before and I continue to hold with the stance that "good" and "morals" can be objective, correct ones are based on life affirmation. Further, I hold that I can very well label a particular (...) (25 years ago, 31-Dec-99, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: Terrorists hate freedom
(...) De plane, boss, de plane! De fence, boss, de fence! Oh, sorry, defense. Ummmmmmmm, okay, maybe if I knew what I was supposed to be defending. Perhaps if I read on and not pick on a minor error... :-) (...) I find something ironic in that (...) (21 years ago, 13-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: codifying marriage on biblical principles
(...) lol What are you talking about?? I thought you wanted to know if church leaders' comments were politically motivated? To which political comment of mine are you referring? As far as your question about church leaders' motivation-- I already (...) (21 years ago, 12-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: codifying marriage on biblical principles
(...) Ummmmmm, where are you going with this? You ironically note that quoting yourself as a source is dubious by itself, but with Todd, Tim, and Jake providing corroborating evidence, you are at least more credible. But in the next breath you (...) (21 years ago, 12-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: codifying marriage on biblical principles
(...) Since they cannot be verified as independent sources and can instead be shown to borrow heavily from one another (in a manner quite similar to the process of editorial revisions of a single work), they cannot, to my satisfaction, be regarded (...) (21 years ago, 12-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Re: codifying marriage on biblical principles
(...) But see, there's the problem. On what basis can one assess someone's actions to be following or not following Jesus? Unfortunately, the Gospels don't qualify as adequately impartial accounts of his life, death, life, or teachings, so we'd need (...) (21 years ago, 12-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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		Terrorists hate freedom (was Re: codifying marriage on biblical principles)
(...) Now THERE is a peculiarly American point of view. On the basis that terrorists are those who forsake non-violent means of change, and violently target combatants and non-combatants alike to coerce changes in state policy, I'd have thought that (...) (21 years ago, 12-Mar-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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